Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:32 am
Isn't that the engineer's hatch?
Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:41 am
Yes, that is the top hatch, and the dark ring is oily handprints and wear from sitting in the hatch during taxi.
That is the paint job that gets my vote, Gary, with one exception- tail number 71 was the first aircraft destroyed at Pearl Harbor, and I think that aircraft is the one I would replicate. At any rate, I'll try to come down at some point to help as well! Keep up the good work!
Scott
That is the paint job that gets my vote, Gary, with one exception- tail number 71 was the first aircraft destroyed at Pearl Harbor, and I think that aircraft is the one I would replicate. At any rate, I'll try to come down at some point to help as well! Keep up the good work!
Scott
Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:19 am
This aircraft may still exist in some form
Interestingly enough a website displaying this picture has the aircraft listed as Serial No. 40-2369
If you check Mr Baughers website it has this:
40-2369 to Consairway. Salvaged at Kingman, AZ. Nose section exists with Robert Kropp collection, Mesa, AZ.
40-2369 is listed in the registry but with no further information or photos.
Shay
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Interestingly enough a website displaying this picture has the aircraft listed as Serial No. 40-2369
If you check Mr Baughers website it has this:
40-2369 to Consairway. Salvaged at Kingman, AZ. Nose section exists with Robert Kropp collection, Mesa, AZ.
40-2369 is listed in the registry but with no further information or photos.
Shay
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Last edited by Shay on Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:54 am
Robert does have some pretty big B-24 pieces crammed into his T hangar.
I'm not sure it lives up to the lofty description of The Robert Kropp Collection.
I'm not sure it lives up to the lofty description of The Robert Kropp Collection.
Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:08 am
RickH wrote:Robert does have some pretty big B-24 pieces crammed into his T hangar.
I'm not sure it lives up to the lofty description of The Robert Kropp Collection.
You wouldn't have pictures of Mr. Kropp's collection would you? Atleast the B-24 in question.
Shay
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:09 am
"http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/050602-F-1234P-004.jpg"
That paint job reminds me of one H&P's PB4Y2's I Think it was tanker 121 that was painted up kind of like that we use to call it the "Wonder Bread Plane" I think they had that paint job in the late 70's early 80's.
Scott......
That paint job reminds me of one H&P's PB4Y2's I Think it was tanker 121 that was painted up kind of like that we use to call it the "Wonder Bread Plane" I think they had that paint job in the late 70's early 80's.
Scott......
Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:41 am
hairy wrote:It's got my vote for best thread...............
Imritger, Shay and others will probably like these............................
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared ... 4S-025.jpg
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared ... 4S-023.jpg
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared ... 4S-024.jpg
See, THAT'S what I'm talking about!
These are great pics, thanks for digging these up!
And no matter what, this is gonna be FANTASTIC when done.
Thanks agian for all your hard work, Gary!
Lynn
Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:10 pm
I'd keep the Diamond Lil nose art and name even if the paint changes...
Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:33 pm
Shay, no pictures sorry. Maybe I can describe the "collection".
Picture a single T hangar. That T hangar has a couple of large B-24 sections filling the center to the back wall. Small pieces of airplanes are then stacked in every available open spot. Kinda of like your catchall closet at home, you know, the one we all have that when you open the door all the stuff falls out.
Picture a single T hangar. That T hangar has a couple of large B-24 sections filling the center to the back wall. Small pieces of airplanes are then stacked in every available open spot. Kinda of like your catchall closet at home, you know, the one we all have that when you open the door all the stuff falls out.
Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:06 pm
Above the prop shadow. Directly on top of the fuselage. The spot is very circular.
Sorry ... I just thought THAT dark spot was a hatch or window...the prop shadow looked kinda weird to me...so...
I like the short nose with the camo and the flag.
It would be a cool paint job...with the LIL art on the other side of course.
Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:39 am
Paint job idea.................
With the name... Polka Dot!
Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:09 pm
Here's another little progress report for y'all. Finally got a single volunteer to show up (Don Obreiter), and it's amazing the amount of disassembly that can happen with two people going after it! 
We now have all of the control surfaces off (going to be recovered), we have the old wooden cabinets and a partition removed from where the navigator's station is going to be, and we have all of the floorboards removed. Interestingly, the tunnel gun position (on the belly, aft of the waist gunners) still has it's original structure there, so I'll probably go ahead and get the plug for it drilled out and then start back on the fabrication of some of these other projects I've got going. I just don't want to get toooo much torn apart before I dig this hole so deep I can't get out.
It's a shame there has been only one volunteer to come out to help so far. Everyone is missing all of the fun work. Anyway, here are some pictures...
R/H elevator coming off...
Don lowering the left elevator...
R/H aileron removal...
Future navigator's station...
Pretty clean under here overall...
Gary
We now have all of the control surfaces off (going to be recovered), we have the old wooden cabinets and a partition removed from where the navigator's station is going to be, and we have all of the floorboards removed. Interestingly, the tunnel gun position (on the belly, aft of the waist gunners) still has it's original structure there, so I'll probably go ahead and get the plug for it drilled out and then start back on the fabrication of some of these other projects I've got going. I just don't want to get toooo much torn apart before I dig this hole so deep I can't get out.
It's a shame there has been only one volunteer to come out to help so far. Everyone is missing all of the fun work. Anyway, here are some pictures...
R/H elevator coming off...
Don lowering the left elevator...
R/H aileron removal...
Future navigator's station...
Pretty clean under here overall...
Gary
Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:23 pm
Sweet Gary keep'm coming and keep up the good work. I wish I lived closer to lend a hand.
Shay
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Shay
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:26 pm
Shay wrote: I wish I lived closer to lend a hand.
Shay
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They do have airline service into Midland now.
Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:49 pm
Thanks for posting the latest photos.