Warbird Information Exchange

Maybe its just a coincidence,but the last time that the USAF said that the A-10's were destined for the junkyard,the Army said that they would fly them.

Suddenly,the USAF decided that maybe they would keep a few A-10's going after all.

Call me crazy, but I've often wondered why the Marines don't use the A-10 in their inventory. It fits right in with their role and would probably do a better close air support role than say...the Harrier.

How about the Piper Enforcer?

The Hog isn't able to be flown from a boat

The F-16 unit in NY turned in the A-10 for F-16 a few years before the Gulf war 1, They gave them some 30mm gun pods for ground attack. I think they were one of the first units to try this out. They were deployed for Round 1. After that the whole idea of F-16s replacing the hog seemed to drop off the radar completely, or at least I never heard it breathed again. I always interpreted that project as a failure because of it dropping out of view so quickly.

My recollection was that the PA-48 was a Pentagon General's "pet program" as most of the Brass in the 80's were WWII and Korea vets and had flown the P-51 at one time or another. I think they threw a couple million bucks at the program to take it out of limbo, flight test the birds, and kill the program. It never had a real chance of making production.

The Piper Enforcer is as much a rival to the A-10 as a NASCAR racer is a rival to an F1 car. Similar, but also very different in important ways.

That's not to say that the Enforcer wasn't (or couldn't have been) a capable aircraft in its own right...but it was never in any danger of stealing away the A-10's spot in the Air Force.

It would be interesting if the Enforcer had been adopted by the Air Force. After the test program in the 1980s there were many significant changes that were going to be made to the design that would have made it a good (in my opinion) COIN aircraft....one that would be VERY relevant in Iraq right about now.

Hill units upgrade ‘Warthogs’ [A-10A Modification to A-10C]
Hilltop Times ^ | 8/17/2006 | G. A. Volb


At first glance the A-10 cockpit looks like a category five tornado just touched down in the middle of it. The chaotic scene – hundreds of loose wires and instrumentation ripped from consoles –is really the beginning of modifications that will extend the service life of the “Warthogs” while increasing their capabilities.

Better known as the Precision Engagement Program, it’s designed to facilitate the use of smart munitions and update the cockpit so it’s more in line with that of its F-16 brethren. Hill’s 508th Aircraft Sustainment Wing and 309th Aircraft Maintenance Group are leading the charge this year — the PE program one of several scheduled for the aircraft to bring it into the 21st Century. The 508th’s Aircraft Sustainment Squadron ensures Air Combat Command requirements regarding the jets are met.

“We work with the contractor to develop hardware and software to meet those requirements,” said Capt. Michael Ballak, deputy chief for the A-10 Precision Engagement Program at the 508th’s sustainment squadron. “The end product is a modification kit that is delivered to the 309th for installation on the aircraft.”

And that’s where the 309th begins the blue-collar work of putting elbow grease into the aircraft.

“The PE work consists of a huge electrical modification which involves updating the cockpit with new avionics and software, giving pilots greater battlefield awareness,” said Robin Ritch, PE section chief for the 309th AMXG. “This means removing some 1,700 wires and replacing them with 14,000 feet of new wire.” Hence the disaster that is a cockpit in transition.

Once completed, the aircraft will include 10 new components, while another 12 will be upgraded. “We’ll add a hands-on-throttle-and-stick feature, plus integrate the targeting pods,” said Ms. Ritch. “The litening pod currently uses only a Maverick missile interface that provides limited functionality. The PE modification provides integration of the Litening and Sniper XR targeting pods.” A team of Hill civilians and contractors from L3 Communications are making it happen. “Currently, we have around 150 mechanics performing the modifications comprised of civilians here at Hill and contractors from L3 Communications,” said Ritch. “They’re specialists in electrical systems, sheet metal, general aircraft mechanics and fuels. We also have some other units supporting the work including the pylon, commodities, avionics and flight test shops.” Specifically, the aircraft will be turned over to customers with expanded smart munitions ability – for guided bombs and other smart weapons; two multi-functional color cockpit displays; enhanced target identification and designation; wind-corrected munitions dispenser; and double the DC power, giving it the ability to climb higher and faster.

“The A-10 squadron will produce 93 aircraft in fiscal year ’07,” said Rick Merrill, 571st Aircraft Maintenance Squadron A-10 production chief. “The work will include the Precision Engagement Program, plus Service Life Extension Program and Plastic Media Blast (a corrosion control program). All will be sent back to A-10 combat units stationed world wide.”

The PE portion takes 90-days from wheels down to wheels up. But it’s a timeline that will see marked reductions following the team’s efforts in Leaning the process.

“Lean will provide some major improvements in the process,” said Mr. Merrill. “It’ll bring all of the resources to those performing the work. It means technicians no longer are required to conduct search missions for parts, tooling, kits or anything else required to produce the aircraft. Bottom line is we’ll be returning an aircraft that’s better able to support the war fighter on the ground and in the air.”

“The teamwork between the two units has been outstanding,” said Captain Ballak. “No one organization can execute a successful modification alone. It takes a total team effort to pull off a modification of this size.”


The newly designed A-10C “Warthog” made its first flight at Eglin Air Force Base Jan. 20.