Borrego Springs video

mike furline · **Joined:** Wed May 05, 2004 3:45 pm **Posts:** 2642

Lots of eye candy here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyLAAPVrT7g&t=1633s

About a dozen B-25's, two B-29's, Marauder nose, CAF B-26 wreckage, parts, engines and on and on.

What is the single engine fuselage at the 24:00 minute mark with the right landing gear wheel facing inward? Looks familiar, but I'm drawing a blank.

Hooligan2 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:49 am

Funny how we seem to get the same videos popping up on YouTube! I wonder why...

I did wonder about security at the site, I know it's quite remote but I imagine not all that far-off the beaten track for the determined ne'er-do-well. I found it on Google maps a few years ago without too much difficulty and spent a while trying to count the B-29s ..

The P-40 and "Spitfire" (Yak?) fuselages are presumably film props?

Paul Stroud · **Posted:** Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:03 am

I reckon the P-40, B-25 and Spitfire fuselages at 11:20 are 'Pearl Harbor' studio props, based on a) the a/c types and b) the faded but legible paintwork as well as the dodgy looking exhausts on the Spitfire.

Dan Jones · **Posted:** Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:11 am

I'm gonna guess it's a Yak 11?

Interesting video but I hope he gets sued.

quemerford · **Joined:** Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:19 pm **Posts:** 1630

It was always Ocotillo Wells; why the subterfuge?

kalamazookid · **Posted:** Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:37 am

Enjoy the video while it's up. I bet it will be taken down or set to private shortly. I don't think Aero Trader likes people poking around there.

Lots of interesting stuff - two B-29s, Harpoon, Lodestar fuselages, A-26, B-26 nose, a bunch of B-25s, Sabres, PT-26 and Beech 18 among them, plus various engines, turrets, landing gear, etc. I thought I caught a glimpse of some A-20 parts, but that may be wishful thinking. There are some interesting looking cuffed propellers around the 26:11 mark that look like they could be from a P-61 but again, that might be wishful thinking.

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:29 am

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bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11327

Beware, they have trained rattlesnakes there! My favorite artifact is the B-25 forward fuselage from the King-9 episode of The Twilight Zone.

Warbirdnerd · **Joined:** Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:34 pm **Posts:** 2929

Too bad it was taken down. That drone had one heck of a camera...
Anyone able to grab a copy before they pulled it? DMs are open... :lol:

bomberfan · **Posted:** Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:09 am

I got halfway through it when I got distracted. It was a great video, I wonder if there's a way to still get a copy from the author. Their yard is even more amazing than I'd imagined.

JohnB · **Posted:** Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:16 pm

Dan Jones wrote:

Interesting video but I hope he gets sued.

Unless there have been new laws since my Journalism law class days, I don't know what he could be sued for if they were taken with a drone.

Does anyone live on the property?
Was anyone shown?
Airplanes are intimate objects and have no expectation of privacy.

There is a California environmental group which photographs the coastline to check on erosion and buildings. A well known singer sued them for showing her huge compound, citing invasion of privacy...
She lost.
I can't imagine a judge or jury would be more sympathetic towards a bunch of obsolete aircraft.

If someone is that concerned, they should be covered.
After all, aren't they visible on satellite images...or passing aircraft?
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About the "Pearl Harbor" Spitfires...I thought those scenes were shot in the UK?
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I hope Aero Trader has more of the "King 9" Twlight Zone B-25 than just the forward fuselage..it is a rare C (D) model.
Unless it is in very bad shape, I would have thought someone would have restored it by now considering its (relative) fame and rarity.

quemerford · **Joined:** Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:19 pm **Posts:** 1630

Trespass applies here surely?

Paul Stroud · **Posted:** Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:39 am

About the "Pearl Harbor" Spitfires...I thought those scenes were shot in the UK?

Yes they were, but I would imagine a cockpit section would be used for studio work (back projection etc) and that presumably would be in Hollywood?

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:28 am

Paul Stroud wrote:

About the "Pearl Harbor" Spitfires...I thought those scenes were shot in the UK?

Yes they were, but I would imagine a cockpit section would be used for studio work (back projection etc) and that presumably would be in Hollywood?

I believe all the shots involving the talent being filmed "flying" the P-40s and Spitfire were done in Hollywood with full scale mockups (I think maybe without the tail?) as they were mounted on a revolving gimble from the rear, to allow them to film barrel rolls, banks, etc, more easily. Trying to find a picture somewhere online but can't at the moment.

mike furline · **Joined:** Wed May 05, 2004 3:45 pm **Posts:** 2642

Warbird Kid wrote:

Paul Stroud wrote:

About the "Pearl Harbor" Spitfires...I thought those scenes were shot in the UK?

Yes they were, but I would imagine a cockpit section would be used for studio work (back projection etc) and that presumably would be in Hollywood?

I believe all the shots involving the talent being filmed "flying" the P-40s and Spitfire were done in Hollywood with full scale mockups (I think maybe without the tail?) as they were mounted on a revolving gimble from the rear, to allow them to film barrel rolls, banks, etc, more easily. Trying to find a picture somewhere online but can't at the moment.

https://dronesourced.com/drone-laws/cal ... or%20areas.

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