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I wonder why yawing didn't get the gear locked down?

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the gear was down, the downlock pins did not come out to lock the gear. on some 6s you can push the front gear handle down past the normal location to manually force the pins out. What is strange is having both pins hang up. Also you do not need hydraulic pressure to extend or lock the gear, gravity does it all.

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Matt Gunsch wrote:
the gear was down, the downlock pins did not come out to lock the gear. on some 6s you can push the front gear handle down past the normal location to manually force the pins out. What is strange is having both pins hang up. Also you do not need hydraulic pressure to extend or lock the gear, gravity does it all.


Exactly.

After reviewing the video, it looks like the right main was down and the left main was up. Perhaps they intentionally didn't try to lock the extended one?

Right main and tail wheel.
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BennoT6 wrote:
N821DS ?

Yes. Second of 2 T6 accidents reported that day. The one in Florida looks bad...
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Warbirdnerd wrote:
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Yes. Second of 2 T6 accidents reported that day. The one in Florida looks bad...
https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100: ... H+AMERICAN


The accident in FL was a Navion.

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mike furline wrote:
Warbirdnerd wrote:
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Yes. Second of 2 T6 accidents reported that day. The one in Florida looks bad...
https://www.asias.faa.gov/apex/f?p=100: ... H+AMERICAN


The accident in FL was a Navion.

Thank you, missed that looking at it on my phone...
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I heard they left the Left main gear at Marana after a botched landing attempt.

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I heard they left the Left main gear at Marana after a botched landing attempt.

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Are you saying that they hit the ground so hard on landing that it dislodged the left main landing gear and made it separate from the wing?
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I heard they left the Left main gear at Marana after a botched landing attempt.

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Are you saying that they hit the ground so hard on landing that it dislodged the left main landing gear and made it separate from the wing?


I know better than to feed the rumor mill...but I have no reason to doubt it.

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JimH wrote:
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I heard they left the Left main gear at Marana after a botched landing attempt.

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Are you saying that they hit the ground so hard on landing that it dislodged the left main landing gear and made it separate from the wing?


I know better than to feed the rumor mill...but I have no reason to doubt it.

Wow, thanks for the info, I hadn't heard that. Let's hope that was not the case.
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I can't decisively tell from the video...does it look like they had a sudden engine stoppage?
If so, the cost of repairs went up considerably.

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