Tallichet birds at Barstow

[T J Johansen]

I recently saw some photos from Dave Tallichet's storage facility at Barstow - Daggett back in 1978, and in one of them there was a Sovjet painted P-39 sitting in the background. At first I wondered if the CAF Cobra was present in the yard, but photos shot at Airsho' 78 two weeks prior show a 39 with somewhat different markings. Does anyone know which Cobra this was, as it was complete, and not a project like the rest of the PNG stuff Tallichet got.

T J

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[dirtysidedown430]

Which one he has own a number of them. The thing that David learned about that airplane is that if you can not line up the drive shafts per the book that's the end of airplane.

[T J Johansen]

When I look at the way I wrote this, I guess what I'm asking does not come out too clearly. Never write late at night...

The question is this; The P-39 shot at Barstow is a complete aircraft painted in Sovjet AF colors, and I have never been aware that Tallichet had a 39 that was complete, sitting on its gear with prop and everything back in Oct. 1978. I am fully aware of the wrecks that came from PNG, but this is not a derelict.

At first I thought it was the CAF's P-39 N6968, but photos of that aircraft at Airsho' 78 only weeks before (and in later years) shows it doesn't look quite the same. So which of MARC/ YAF's Airacobras was this?

T J

[Warbirdnerd]

Just a WAG based on Goodall's Lists but I would say the 2 most likely candidates would be 42-4949 or 44-3908.

[dirtysidedown430]

I'am sorry if I came off a little curt with last post to your P39 question. David has so many airplanes over the years its all but impossible to kept track of them all. Someone should do a book on him.

[AirJimL2]

My guess is 42-20000 now at March or the one that was under restoration at Tulsa (42-8740?).

Jim

[phil65]

Back in the early 90's I was helping restore one of Tallichet's B-25 at Hanscom AFB in Mass.
One day a flatbed showed up with a glass nose to replace our gun nose.
There was also a derelict aircraft on it, which at first I thought was a P-51.
To my disappointment (sorry I was young and dumb) it turned out to be a P-39.
Unfortunately I didn't take any pictures, and now I wonder what happeded to it.
Didn't realize Tallichet was so into P-39 until recently, I mean for Christ sakes; he had a B-17...

Phil

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[Scott Rose]

Information from the Mad Colonel Rohr

P-39N 42-4949
Recovered from Fort Nelson BC in Russian markings now with POF

P-39N 42-8740
Recovered from PNG now with Yanks

P-39N 42-18403
Recovered from PNG still owned and in storage by MARC

P-39N 42-18408
Recovered from PNG still owned and in storage by MARC

P-39N 42-18811
Recovered PNG still owed and in storage by MARC

P-39N 42-18814
Recovered from PNG still owned by MARC on display at PIMA

P-39N 42-19027
Recovered from PNG reportedly on loan to Clover Park Tech College

P-39N 42-19034
Recovered from PNG still owned and in storage by MARC

P-39Q 42-19991
Recovered from PNG still owned and in storage by MARC

P-39Q 42-19995
Recovered from PNG still owned by and in storage by MARC

P-39Q 42-20000
Purchase by MARC in 1980 now on display at March AFB Museum

P-39Q 42-20007
Recovered from PNG now on display Virginia Air and Space Center

P-39Q 42-20339
Recovered from PNG still owned and in storage by MARC

P-39Q 44-2438
Recovered from PNG still owned and in storage by MARC

[Dan Jones]

Information from the Mad Colonel Rohr

P-39N 42-4949
Recovered from Fort Nelson BC in Russian markings now with POF

I always just assumed that this one came out of PNG in '74 with the others. Does anyone have a good idea of the condition that it's in? Is it just a shell or is it a reasonable project for POF to put back in the air down the road?

Sorry for the hijack. Always liked the Airacobra.

[Ethan]

While on the subject of aircraft recovered from New Guineaby Tallichet, does anyone have any info on the whereabouts of P-40N 42-105951? The last info I found which was a few years old said that the wings were in New Zealand while the fuselage was at Chino. I live near Chino and have seen MARCs storage yard but there doesn't seem to be a P-40 fuselage there.

[dirtysidedown430]

Thanks for the heads up on book about David T. Col. I wonder when it might be out and about. I know Scott Royce was writing his own book on his life in aviation. Have you heard anything on him lately. Ths again.

[Chris Brame]

Information from the Mad Colonel Rohr
P-39N 42-8740
Recovered from PNG now with Yanks

Is this the P-39 that was displayed as an "as found" crashed wreck at Chino about 20 years ago? (kicking myself for not writing down the serial at the time)

[dirtysidedown430]

Good luck with the book Col. You should know about the down to rain water and cornflakes B26s from the Aleutians

[bmoran]

About 20 years ago in the early 90's I got real close and personal with a heap of P-39 fuselage over at the ESAM at the same time his B-26, 40-1501, started restoration there. I think Dave's P-38, 44-27231, also spent some time there in that same timeframe. Unfortunately, I was a very young kid at the time and don't have any photos.

[jspott]

I would love to see a list of what Marc still owns.