Warbird Information Exchange

The following lists of aircraft that were offered through the DOD Surplus Catelog venue. These military aircraft remains are essentually broken up scrap - not being offered as a possible flyer. I thought maybe those WIX members that are looking for a souvenir or are parts collectors may find the lists useable. For full explanation of subject, please refer to same title above, except use - 1970.

Sale Date..........Aircraft Remains..........Sale Location...........Buyer If Known

3 Nov 1970....H-19D ser. 64254......USATAC Warren, MI......Leon Cleaver, Vermilion, OH
29 Mar 1973........F-105B....................McGuire AFB, NJ
29 Mar 1973...T-38, X-26A, C-2A, F-14.....NAS Patuxent River, MD...Leon Cleaver, Vermilion, OH
...................T-38 BuNo 158197, X-26A BuNo 158818, C-2A BuNo 152788, F-14 BuNo 157989
11 Mar 1975....C-47D, C-119G, C-97G, C-124C, RB-57A.....Tri-City Airport, Saginaw, MI
C-47D ser.43-48459, C-119G ser 52-5846, C-97G ser 52-02646, C-124C ser 51-10126,
RB-57A 52-21463
8 Apr 1975...C-119G ser 52-5846, C-97G ser 52-02646...Tri-City A/P, MI...Jack Munson, Muncie, IN
8 Apr 1975...C-124C ser 51-10126..........Tr-City A/P, MI...........Newhouse Auto, Ypilanti, MI
8 Apr 1975...RB-57A ser 52-21463..........Tri-City A/P, MI..........Jack Munson, Muncie, IN
27 Jan 1976.......F-100................Wurtsmith AFB, MI............B&B Metals, Newton, WI
27 Jan 1976.....CH-21B, CH-21C, UH-19C, HUP-2....Aberdeen PG, MD....Hi-Way Service, Kokomo, IN
....CH-21's...serials 54140.....H-19's.....serials 14248......HUP's....BuNo 128517
............................62144.............................14262..........................128553
............................28701.............................14249..........................128566
............................28684.............................14259..........................128516
............................28700.............................14247..........................128576
............................44000
............................34365
............................34367
5 Jun 1980.........F-105B........................McGuire AFB, NJ
5 Jun 1980.........XAJ-1 BuNo 121460......NAS Norfolk, VA

This list concludes the Longshot Scrap Yard lists. Look for photographs with additional information. Chris Brame will load photos in the next few days for the 1990's and separetly - the Addendum List.
I hope some of the info has a value to interested parties. Thanks to Chris Brame for his help in loading and updating photos...

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5-26-78:


Jason - Old property on moving day 7-25-00:


1/2 unloaded - New property 7-28-00:

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

FIRST NORTHROP T-38 FOR NAVY -- Lt. Sidney Billue, USN, Maj. Don Pascoe, USAF, and Cdr. Gus Eggert assistant director of the Naval Test Pilot School, Patuxent, Md., discuss the cross-country flight of the first Northrop T-38 Talon supersonic trainer delivered to the Navy at Palmdale Monday (Oct. 6).








Patuxent River NAS - 4-16-73:


4-17-73:


7-12-12:


X-26A 158818 - Schweizer 2-32 glider - Results of crash into Chesapeake Bay in early 70s (Baugher says 1972 but also says it was destroyed in a fatal crash in 1980??). Photos taken June 2000:




Pretty sure this is the same one; photo from 456fis.org:


C-2A 152788 (this photo had turned almost completely reddish-orange; I did what I could with it):


F-14A 157989:

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

These were all USAF aircraft that had been loaned to the short-lived Michigan Military Air Museum in the early 1970s. When the museum closed in 1974, the aircraft were impounded and sold; some would even fly again (I've corrected some serials).

C-47D 43-48459:

Per Baugher:

Current photos here: http://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDos ... rial=71954

C-119G 52-5846:

Not a happy ending here:

Photo from this thread: viewtopic.php?t=18840&start=120


C-97G 52-2646:

No info on this one past the sale; Geoff Goodall lists it as "assumed scrapped".

C-124C 51-126:


Cockpit:

Per Baugher:


RB-57A 52-1463:


Purchased by Jack Munson, moved to the Selma Airport, Muncie, IN; photo taken April 20, 1981:


Per Nathan Decker at millionmonkeytheater.com:

Good question. I found a topographical map that showed the location of the Selma airfield at 40.1880993, -85.2591355; the earliest aerial image (1994) shows a vague area that looks like it could have been a grass airstrip - but no RB-57. Today it's a plowed field.

Now the others that weren't part of the sale:

H-19 (UH-19D) 55-3186, no current info on this one:


HU-16 51-7169, nicknamed Katanga:

Another that made it back into the air, for a while:
http://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDos ... rial=38920
And on a thread here ("Mystery Albatross"):
viewtopic.php?p=532598

RF-84F 51-1896:

This one's flying, too - on the end of a stick.
Per Nathan Decker at millionmonkeytheater.com:

Wait. What's going on with the stabilizers? The left one has no elevator and doesn't line up with the right one

OK - next we'll look at a LOT of helicopters...

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

Back in A&P tech school in Milwaukee we had aircraft as well as individual components to learn from/work with (the pranged up L-19 is now a frequent visitor to Oshkosh!). There were many hydraulic components from a T-33. I later found 2 T-33's in a junk yard on the north side of the city. The both had the wings sawn off outside of the main gear, one still had the engine in it. Tried like heck to convince my parents to let me buy them and keep them in their back yard (I had an apartment at the time), but no luck.

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To continue:




Leon drew a map of the layout of the lot; the copy was too light when I scanned it so I redrew it:


Now the photos.
"H-21s - L-R: serials 54140, 62144, 28701"


"Center going back - HUP-2s BuNo 128516, 128566, 128553, 12?517"


"HUP-2s - L-R: Nose of BuNo 128516, 02 Navy-?"


"H-21s - L-R: 28701, ?, 28684"


"H-21s L-R: 28684, 44000"


"4 H-19s L-R: 14259 (olive), 14249 (olive), 14262 (orange), 14248 (orange). H-21 on right - unknown"


"3 H-21s L-R: 28700 (blue), 34365 (blue), 34367 (orange-white)"


More yet to come.

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

Dear Leon, Chris,

Can I save some of the 'copter' pictures? They won't be for financial gain.

I'm REALLY enjoying this thread. Looks at all those Piasecki's! It's an interesting place. Did most of these HUP's and H21's survive, minus the one Leon saved?

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Nathan - As far as I'm concerned, the photos are for anyones use....Chris has refurbished - if you will - several photos which makes them more viable...I just thought that some pics always enhances a story... ...Leon

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"....the short-lived Michigan Military Air Museum in the early 1970s. When the museum closed in 1974, the aircraft were impounded and sold; some would even fly again (I've corrected some serials)."


I've read that among the aircraft was a prototype OH-6...and after the museum closed the Michigan Sate Police got it and were going to try to make it airworthy (probably unlit they found out how much helicopter parts are).


Anyone know more about the museum and its aircraft?

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I figure if you wanted my opinion on items unrelated to this forum, you'd ask for it.

Thank you, Leon. I really am enjoying these threads. It's great to actually see pictures of some of the planes listed. It's interesting where they end up, from one life to another.

I just want to show people where the HUP came from. Im working really hard to find people interested in helping me. And Im slowly buying some hauling gear for when the time comes to do some more airplane adventuring.

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I'm getting to that...

As Leon mentioned, some of those helicopters were sold to Jack Fetsko of Media, PA:


"H-21 and HUP-2 (BuNo 128517) of Fetsko's. H-21 on right is for sale. Both have sections of s/n 53-4367. 4-25-81"


"HUP-2s at airport - 128566, 128517, 128516, 128578
Several H-21 nose sections, 3 HUPs at New London Airport. Owner - Jack Fetsko of Media, PA. 4-25-81"


"H-21 on left has nose of (olive) H-21 which is main part of 34367. 4-25-81"


"H-21 7-17-84"


"HUP-2/H-21 New London Airport, PA 7-17-84"


So then l took all the serials and went through the Baugher listings. Didn't find all of them, but here's what info there was.

H-21s:


H-19s:


HUPs:


So there you have it.

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

One more goodie to toss in: Leon shot this OH-23B (51-16340) at the Columbus, Ohio Defense Construction Supply Center on April 13, 1976:
"The 'Raven' was not listed in any of my catalogs, but since it was in the yard, why not..."

Looked pretty good other than a missing tail rotor. No info in Baugher and Googling the serial turned up zero; so I guess the Raven is ...nevermore .

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

A big thanks to Chris Brame for reproducing the photos in these listings. I think WIXers and Warbird enthusiasts have an instinctive insight that once a fact or photo is known, the 'Lets Find out all we can about the bird' kicks in...Always very interesting....

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Now see, I got all worked up thinking they might still be in media Pa! I should of known better then that! I guess I can save myself a road trip now.

Thanks for the info.

BTW: the H-21 is a big mother compared to the HUP!

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Absolutely top-notch rare and historic junkyard pics. These kinds are why I love it here.