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Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:52 am
I recieved another most informative issue of Classic Wings magazine in the mail today. The magazine is reporting that 4 additional aircraft will soon be on display in the new restoration area at Udvar Hazy. I'm not sure what if any restoration will take place on these airframes but at least they will be on public display. The aircraft are: 1. Horten Ho IX
http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/arti ... 9600324000, 2. Sikorsky JRS-1
http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/arti ... 9610112000, 3. Lippisch DM-1
http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/arti ... 9590098000 and 4. Convair XFY-1 Pogo
http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/arti ... 9730274000
Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:28 pm
Glad to hear it!
While I loved Silver Hills it was a good thing I did not live near there. I would have spent all my time worrying them about preserving the jewels they had in non-climate controlled bldgs. and hangars.
That Horten being just one of many!
Just visited Udvar-Hazy over Christmas Holidays and it is one of my favorite places in the DC area.
My nephews kept finding stuff I didn't know much about and so I had to go find out more.
Take a friend or better yet... take family and enjoy a treasure trove!
SPANNER
Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:02 pm
It is my understanding that these will be displayed "as is" until they formally get the Phase 2 restoration facility up and running; there is no certainty that these will be the next restorations.
The Lippisch DM-1 is noteworthy in that it has been in its crate since at least the late 1940s or early 1950s. I think I am correct in saying that, unless this crate has recently been opened, no NASM staffperson has ever seen this artifact. I am sure that I am not the only person who is learning in learning the state of the aircraft and the completeness of its interior. Does anybody have information on the history of this in the US? This is a glider-only test aircraft for a planned ramjet-powered possibly supersonic design.
Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:33 pm
So I assume "Flak Bait" will continue to languish at the mercy of grubby handed tourists at the Mall complex?
SN
Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:02 am
JRS is great news!!

She's a Pearl Harbor vet.

Was with VJ-1.
Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:01 am
The JRS going to U-H will be nice. I saw this plane at Garber and it is a good candidate for as-is display, with conservation or minimal restoration, like the P-38. It is intact, presentable, and bears damage from the Dec. 7 attack that would be a shame to mess with.
August
Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:17 pm
This one has me psyched!!

Hopefully my internship will line up with this piece of history somehow...
- Austin Hancock
1941 Historical Aircraft Group Volunteer
Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:49 am
all 1st prototypes!! now that will be gold!!! the pogo can be shoved in a corner to save space.
Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:27 pm
Any word on any resto activity on the Ta152 at silver hill?
Would love to see that reassembled again one day!
Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:16 am
Great news that these will finally be displayed.
Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:58 am
JägerMarty wrote:Any word on any resto activity on the Ta152 at silver hill?
Would love to see that reassembled again one day!
I emailed the museum about that a/c and about the Swoose several years ago. The answer was "There are currently no plans...". Well, The Swoose is at the NMUSAF, so maybe it's time to restore the Ta 152H.
Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:32 pm
I know the guy donated a lot of money for the annex, but shouldn't this place have been named for a real aviaton hero?
Some one like Jimmy Doolittle or [instert real aviation hero name here]?
Not looking to pick a fight, just lamenting this unfortunate handle.
T
Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:42 pm
TonyM wrote:I know the guy donated a lot of money for the annex, but shouldn't this place have been named for a real aviaton hero?
Some one like Jimmy Doolittle or [instert real aviation hero name here]?
Not looking to pick a fight, just lamenting this unfortunate handle.
T
The fact that his donation sparked getting one of the best aircraft display museums in the country off the ground is good enough for me. You can call it the National Air and Space Museum Annex if you like that better.
Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:58 pm
jwc50 wrote:TonyM wrote:I know the guy donated a lot of money for the annex, but shouldn't this place have been named for a real aviaton hero?
Some one like Jimmy Doolittle or [instert real aviation hero name here]?
Not looking to pick a fight, just lamenting this unfortunate handle.
T
The fact that his donation sparked getting one of the best aircraft display museums in the country off the ground is good enough for me. You can call it the National Air and Space Museum Annex if you like that better.
Yeah, I know, it's great. And like you, I am totally happy with the donation and all the support that followed.
I have accepted reality and know that is the chosen name of this great museum. Thanks for letting me complain a little. I am over it.
I guess I can still be offended by the tourists washing their feet in the WWII Monument pond.
TM
TM
Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:32 pm
TonyM wrote:jwc50 wrote:TonyM wrote:I know the guy donated a lot of money for the annex, but shouldn't this place have been named for a real aviaton hero?
Some one like Jimmy Doolittle or [instert real aviation hero name here]?
Not looking to pick a fight, just lamenting this unfortunate handle.
T
The fact that his donation sparked getting one of the best aircraft display museums in the country off the ground is good enough for me. You can call it the National Air and Space Museum Annex if you like that better.
Yeah, I know, it's great. And like you, I am totally happy with the donation and all the support that followed.
I have accepted reality and know that is the chosen name of this great museum. Thanks for letting me complain a little. I am over it.
I guess I can still be offended by the tourists washing their feet in the WWII Monument pond.
TM
TM
Tony - no sweat, your rant on the name is understandable and ideally it would carry a different name. Now about tourists and their feet in the WWII Monument pond, yes you CAN still be offended.

I would think people who do that are just not thinking, but definitely inappropriate.
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