Warbird Information Exchange

Hey Group,
I saw a B-23 on Ebay recently, it was formerly owned by Howard Hughes.....anyone know who bought it? ebay showed it selling for about $125K.......

What's the N #?

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Mike Bogues dragon...and a very very select few of you may know what the subject line is about!

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How many 23's did Hughes own? PASM makes the same claim of their Dragon, James?

Slam the door and it will fall apart? Is this the one that was so eaten up with corrosion?

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Mike

No this one doesn't have the corrosion issues that the ex CAF one had. the main problem with this one is that it has been moved to an outside tie down spot and has not flown in several years. So it needs lots of money to get it ready for any ferry permit. the person brokering the airplane has been especially obnoxious and rude to any potential buyers and is out of touch with the realities of the U.S. economy and recession.
I know someone that has been trying to buy it since last year, and the seller just gets more and more rude. The logjam is with the seller not any potential buyers.

Hughes never owned ours. As far as I know we've never claimed he did. At least not in anything official, I've no idea what the volunteers might have been saying at some point.

James

that saggin dragon has been passed off more than a 20 dollar wh-re!! do the math.

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Nope, since you're familiar with the former CAF B-23 Bluhawk, I'm thinking you're referring to the "Moses Lake"
Dragon. I don't have those notes handy right now, but it had a white basecoat scheme with colorful orange
and whatever stripes. It sat outside on that northwest clime for many years. I believe owned by Robert Schaefli,
but purchased a few years back by a fella with an Alaska registered company....name escapes me right now.

EDIT
I've heard later comments that the Moses bird wasn't as bad as previously thought, but have no idea how it falls either way.

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Some interior/exterior photos of the late Mike Bogue's Dragon from a still active ebay link..
www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59496

One of the former crew chiefs of this bird is a WIX member, the bird was in fair shape but had one weak engine as well
as typical long term storage considerations. When he was alive she was Mr. B's baby! I truly hope this beauty has finally found some love!

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He bowls overhand...He is the most interesting man in the world.
"In Peace Japan Breeds War", Eckstein, Harper and Bros., 3rd ed. 1943(1927, 1928,1942)
"Leave it to ol' Slim. I got ideas...and they're all vile, baby." South Dakota Slim
"Ahh..."The Deuce", 28,000 pounds of motherly love." quote from some Mojave Grunt
DBF

Mike Bogue's B-23 N747M last flew in 1994 and the last time we ran the engines was in 2002. Howard Hughes owned several B-23's as his company, as well as Pan Am were converting them to executive transports. N747M was not converted by Hughs into a 2 pilot aircraft until after he sold it to FMC.

Wayne, ex crew chief, N747M

Intersting question and answer at the bottom of the ebay listing:

Question & Answer Answered On

Q: I would like to make this purchase. However I want have $117K until May 15, 2010. Would you except payments? I live in Scottsdale, AZ. but work in Sweden and South Africa. I have a bonus coming off our new telecommunication invention. My direct email is L2LUniversal@gmail.com Regards, John Obern Taylor Mar-01-10

A: No problem John, Maybe you could send me a check for more than we are asking for the airplane. Just let me know how much I should send you in advance. If you doan hear from me right away it will be because I'm away on Mars working on a space station my company is about to unvail. You better hurry because when the space station opens I'm getting a large bonus and won't need to sell the B-23. Thank you for your interest in the airplane I look forward to hearing from you. Argo Phuckurelf

Wow, what an A-Hole! The guy is making fun of someone who's first language is not English. That's pretty rude of him to assume that guy is not serious. After all, he did leave contact information. No wonder they haven't sold that airplane yet. You can't treat potential buyers like that. All of this is making me think that maybe they aren't serious about selling this aircraft. Maybe a court is forcing them to sell it to settle an estate or something and they don't want to sell it? I don't know what to think of this.

That's basically how my friend was treated. He owns three hangars and several airworthy aircraft and has the financial means to pay cash, but couldn't get past the nature of this supreme A**whole ! They also have Beech 18 serial #1 , and it hasn't sold either.

Well, If you really think about the question and the scams going around I can't really blame his response.

Lets get back to the topic and stop the personal commentary on the seller.

Tim

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