Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:05 am
67Cougar wrote:There is a difference between arrogance and confidence. The 3 dozen or so current AF, ANG, AFRES, and USN fighter pilots I know and have spoken with all have stated an eagerness to test their skills. After all, isn't that what fighter pilots are supposed to do? Is that arrogance, or confidence in their abilities, training, and equipmet?
Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:15 am
Randy Haskin wrote:Arrogance, however, is what gets you in trouble. That's the belief that, because of those superior equipment, training, and tactics, that you are invincible and infallible. Unfortunately, I see that a lot out of Americans (both inside and out of the military). Just as that was the downfall of so many empires in the past, I see that as the downfall of the "American Empire" of the present. Don't forget that it was only 100 years ago that "the sun never set on the British Empire."
Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:52 am
Brad wrote:Nathan wrote:why does everyone think the U.S. would win in the fights with the F-14s or any other aircraft for that matter? It is this way of thinking that will bite you.
It's called having faith in your military Nathan. Give it a try sometime. In a few of these cases, It's also called "some people know some stuff you don't know" because they are in the military. The government hasn't given away all of our secrets...yet.
Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:41 pm
Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:15 pm
67Cougar wrote:If Randy is indeed what he says he is, and I have no reason to doubt, then he has my admiration and thanks.
Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:22 pm
Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:26 pm
It's the first time I've seen the "fore planes" extended.
My understanding is that the glove vanes were deactivated on the US Tomgrapes.
Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:34 pm
A2C wrote:Iran probably abuses their equipment much like the Iraqi military did-burying planes during airraids, flying runout engines etc.
Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:47 pm
A2C wrote:Cking wrote:It's the first time I've seen the "fore planes" extended.
Randy wrote:My understanding is that the glove vanes were deactivated on the US Tomgrapes.
I lived near Miramar NAS in the 80's, and we'd see F-14's about 15-20 miles out with glove vanes out. They'd use them to slow down, and would keep them out with the wings still swept back during the overhead break.
Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:55 pm
Speedy wrote:But the fact remained that just the THREAT of a 'red force' submarine on the hunt in the Arabian Gulf, or in the Strait of Hormuz could wreak havoc on shipping and essentially shut down that body of water for an indefinite amount of time--which would in turn have an inevitable effect on the global economy.
Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:39 pm
BS Flag. I think you need to do some more research before making uneducated statements. Glove vanes are not devices used to slow down a Tomcat and at a distance of 15 to 20 miles, you couldn't tell the difference between a 172 and a F-14. Even if you hung out at the east gate, arriving traffic is landing west and a mid-field break is 6000ft from the threshold. You either stayed at a Holiday Inn Express or have superhero vision.
Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:44 pm
Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:52 pm
Jack Cook wrote:I'm hearing a buzzing to but not from Warren
Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:28 pm
Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:43 pm