Judy's P-40F Warhawk 3/2009

[Jack Cook]

She got the Purple Heart ya know. but I don't see any scars

[US185damiani]

Note that there are both short tailed and long tailed versions of both the P-40F and P-40L.

Nathan, if by "long tailed" version you mean the later models with the 26" fuselage extension, I don't know that I've ever heard/read of a short P-40L. Could you clarify?

As posted by Mark Pilkington on earlier on this thread.

The first 600 P40F's were probably identical to P40E's firewall back, however the P40F introduced a 26" fuselage stretch from the P40F-5-CU model onwards that is not matched at all in the P40E production design versions, and the remaining 600 aircraft therefore are probably closer to the later K, M and N which all implemented the long fuselage part way through production, than the earlier short fuselage E and L?

Paul

Ok, I must be very dense today or something, but I've honestly never encountered any solid evidence that supports the idea that a short-fuselage P-40L ever existed.

Although I've found a written reference or two which allude to the P-40L-1 having a short fuselage, the few pics I've seen of that version show a long fuselage.

For examples, check out pages 78 and 80 of Warhawk Aces of the MTO:

http://books.google.com/books?id=r9bxGw ... 8#PPT81,M1

Any P-40 experts care to speak definitively on this? Photographic evidence would be appreciated.


Oh yeah... Lest I be accused of piracy: Judy Pay's F looks great!

OK From P-40 Warhawk Vs Ki-43 by Carl Molesworth from osprey Pub. Pg 22
"P-40L/Kittyhawk II

P-40L-1 retained the short fuselage of the early P-40F but the 650 P-40L's starting w/ S/N 42-10480 had the 26" fuselage extension".

Best info I could find on it

[Dan K]

[Buz]

Dan

I like your form of counseling......works for me . As for all others, they can find their own form.......(I'll take Claudia Black....)

Must admit the only book ever to have it right was, of all things, P-40 Warhawk in Action (No.205) by Richard Dann, which says nothing about short fuselages. All other Holy Grails of aviation writing all state the the first 50 were shorts.

Its hard to break 60 odd years of tradition even when confronted with proof, I once sent someone a photo of an P-40L-1 only to be quoted the Holy scriptures in return . Same for a couple of other P-40 Myths (such as Russia got Merlin powered P-40's, and RAF Tomahawk I and II aircraft did not fly operations in Europe (except a unauthourised sortie) both of which are incorrect - No Merlin Powered Aircraft were sent to Russia and Tomahawks flew over 300 "unauthourised" sorties, losing 4 aircraft, all which were recorded in ORB's for Court Martial Proof (vtic)) .

Buz

[Jack Cook]

The next post better be that the a/c made it first flight

[Dan K]

The next post better be that the a/c made it first flight

Sorry 'bout that, Jack. Let me start over again:


Will Judy's Hawk be at Legends?

[JDK]

The next post better be that the a/c made it first flight

I'm listening real hard. It's only about 40km.

[hairy]

It flew twice today.

[oz rb fan]

sweet
i may have to drive up to echuca for the day on saturday

[Dave Homewood]

See a nice photo of the P-40F here
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/index.cgi?ac ... 024&page=1

[daveymac82c]

That's some great news! Amazing how far it's come since I saw it in December. James, thanks for twisting my arm to take me out there!

I can't wait to see more pictures and videos.

Cheers,

David

[JDK]

This teaser just in from Rob Fox:
'F' is for 'Flying...



Exclusive air to airs in the August issue of Flightpath Magazine.

(PS, David, no problem.)

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[TAdan]

Wow!

[JDK]

Wow!

Yes, I mean, like, where's the Carb air intake?

[TAdan]

Wow!

Yes, I mean, like, where's the Carb air intake?

Carb? It must be fuel injected... j/k

What a great looking Hawk.

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