P-38 attack German train Holland september 1st 1944

richard1976 · **Posted:** Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:15 pm

On the morning of September 1st 1944 (around 9.00hrs a.m. CET) a few trains were attacked in the vicintiy of Roermond, The Netherlands. One of those trains is of special interest to me. It's a German train heading to Roermond which was attacked by (as eyewitnesses told me) P-38 fighters. The German train stopped just a few miles to the east of Roermond and was completly destroyed. Do you know where I could find more information about this attack/raid and the fighters (squadron) involved?

Thanks for your help.

Mudge · **Posted:** Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:53 pm

Don't know anything about trains, but...wouldn't have been this one, would it?

Mudge the P-38 freak

ps. Welcome to our merry band

RyanShort1 · **Posted:** Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:59 pm

richard1976 wrote:

One of those trains is of special interest to me. It's a German train heading to Roermond which was attacked by (as eyewitnesses told me) P-38 fighters.

Don't have any information, but what is special about the train?

Ryan the curious

Dan Johnson II · **Joined:** Tue May 04, 2004 1:49 am **Posts:** 659

A look through the histories of the 9th AF 38 groups 367th, 370th and 474th FGs doesn't mention anything about attacking trains. It appears the 474th was the only 9th AF 38 Group up that day.

The 479th FG of the 8th AF was still in 38s but their history doesn't mention attacking trains either.

JDK · **Posted:** Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:05 am

Mudge wrote:

Don't know anything about trains, but...wouldn't have been this one, would it?

Ah, those famous Dutch mountains... :lol:

Seriously though, sorry I can't help, welcome to WIX, can you add any further info yourself? How reliable were the witnesses, and given the negatives so far, could they have been a different kind of twin engined aircraft perhaps? Unlikely I know.

Paul Patist · **Posted:** Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:02 am

Hoi Richard,

You might have a try at http://www.armyairforces.com/

Succes !

Paul

Dave Smith · **Posted:** Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:33 am

AAF In WW2 Combat Chronology says for 8th AF on 1 September: "950-plus heavy bombers sent against targets in E France and Germany are recalled because of bad weather. One bomber bombs railroad at Hasloch. 11 fighter groups offer support, one group strafing a locomotive."

The 9th that day were active on fighter sweeps in N and E France.

richard1976 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:12 pm

Thank you for your replies.

JDK wrote:

Seriously though, sorry I can't help, welcome to WIX, can you add any further info yourself? How reliable were the witnesses, and given the negatives so far, could they have been a different kind of twin engined aircraft perhaps? Unlikely I know.

One eyewthiness told me about a half year ago that 2 tail planes were involved in the attack. An characteristic shape which he never forgot. A local historian told me that it were P-38's. Unfortunally he didn't had any further information.
Some people also talk about the RAF, but in those days all tanks were a Tiger tank and all planes were from the RAF. As far as I know the RAF bought the P-38, but never used it in combat.

Paul Patist wrote:

Hoi Richard,
You might have a try at http://www.armyairforces.com/
Succes !
Paul

Thank you for that link.

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