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Is there anything P-51 related you don't know??? 8)

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Yes, but I sure won't tell him or then he really would know everything!


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Jack Cook wrote:
Rich,
Is there anything P-51 related you don't know??? 8)

Does that mean I get an angry Lizard?
I have an idea for the Geico commercials using the angry lizard- Buy Geico or else type of thing.
Do I Jack? do I get one?

Actually I continue to find out things to learn about. This board sure helps. The pics you share really add a touch of operational history to the aircraft. At Chino I really enjoyed talking to pilots, crew and the workers who built them. The east coast, isolated airport environments and time marching on has all but cut me off from that aspect of the history of the WWII period. So thanks to you and the others who keep that alive.
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Yes, but I sure won't tell him or then he really would know everything!

My angry lizard is going to make you spill the beans!
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I know (or knew-past tense RIP) a lot of 20th FG pilots and crew guys. They were a mighty fine bunch of joes and completely bonded by their experences. A finer bunch you'd be hard pressed to find!!

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OK-OK so it's actually a large angry lizard :roll:
Do the 2 white marks have any significance??

Might index the aft spinner to the #1 prop blade.
Also there were marks on some spinners and prop blades to aid in sighting the gun camera. There was a mark on the center lower carb intake. Align with the mark on the spinner. One mark allows you to sight gun camera on a distant ground target. The other spinner mark aligns a prop blade. On the back of the prop blade was a series of range marks that could be used to sight the gun camera as well IIRC.

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Read T.O. No. 01-60J-33 8)

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I'll check that out at lunch :shock: :roll: :wink: :idea: :roll: :wink: :wink:

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If recall for Rolls Royce technical papers on radiator care there is a chemical, sodium (something? that is use to clean or preserve the cooling system and radiators on the Merlin in British planes. This may be the NaMbt. After I read the papers some years ago, I tried to buy some to the chemical and found it must also be used in meth labs, as the company was very unfriendly and suspicious, and would only sell it in a 55 gal. drum.
Regular flush out radiator cleaner will not clean the metallic salts and scale that deposits in radiators, Ray had to use an acid bath for that, I think it was HCL, and it is a stinky dangerous mess, but does leave the brass coolant pipes clean and a nice bright color. I think I remember they said that aluminum radiators can be cleaned with sulfuric acid. Caution if you are doing this, as I not real sure and might have the acids reversed.

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NaMBT = 50 % aqueous solution of sodium-2-mercaptobenzothiazole (NaMBT)

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I don't know the answer but I want a pony anyway. :D

Pony up for the pony thread.


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I don't know the answer but I want a pony anyway. :D

Pony up for the pony thread.

I ain't got a pony or one of those super lizards yet. I guess I'm just not worthy. :(
But I do have 2 1/2 Mustangs in the hangar. 8)
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The Lizard ate the pony and left :shock:

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The Lizard ate the pony and left :shock:

And I thought strange things only happened on the East Coast.:toimonster:
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As my friend Bill pointed out ( 8) ) NaMBT is a chemical that is an antimicrobial. It kills little "fungus amoungus" that could live in and clog your coolant system. Not a good thing in your aircraft systems.

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Jack Cook wrote:
and it said............................. :?:

We have this P-51D aircraft marking blueprint hanging on the lobby wall.
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Coolant filler is located behind a panel which is marked as the following;
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Internal- Hard to read- see internal aftercooler markings
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Aftercooler access is marked as follows- (Should be similar to main coolant)
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View of main coolant access markings on print-
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Note that NaMBT is mentioned on the internal panel markings of the main system and mentions a TO. I didn't see any external marking on the print for NaMBT as shown in Jack's photo.
Nor are the gun camera prop spinner markings shown on this print.
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