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Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:28 am
Mike wrote:Matt Gunsch wrote:The E model that used to be in Santa Monica is a original, and it flies with the new owner in Canada.
See my post above. It's about as original as any aeroplane can be that started off as a pair of undercarriage legs and a bit of mangled wreckage dug out of a sand dune on a beach 40 years after crashing there. Very nice, but not really an original, German-built airframe. Unlike Black Six, but that's another story altogether.

That was the second one Mike, as has been stated.
Here is a shot of the 'starter kit' for the first one, laid out to best effect, that became known as the 'Price /Santa' Monica 109' but is now in Canada.
JDK: I would have thought rebuilding this would qualify.
PeterA
Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:39 am
Ah yes, sorry folks, getting my 109s confused. I was indeed thinking of the FHC example. It looks a bit better nowadays, though!
Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:56 pm
Thanks for that PeterA.
So that leaves me confused now as to what happened to the one which was in the media a few years back, possibly at Jim Pearces place which was a very complete example on its gear, engine hung and 'apparently' 100 times better condition than the Price/Russel version started out?
Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:23 pm
I'm pretty sure that the one you're thinking of is the Bf 109F that ended up in thre Canadian National Collection in Ottawa. It was at Tony Ditheridge's place for a while, assembled in his hangar in grey primer, and spent a short while on show at Duxford after restoration before being freighted to Canada inside, IIRC, a CAF Herk.
Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:42 pm
Mike wrote:I'm pretty sure that the one you're thinking of is the Bf 109F that ended up in thre Canadian National Collection in Ottawa. It was at Tony Ditheridge's place for a while, assembled in his hangar in grey primer, and spent a short while on show at Duxford after restoration before being freighted to Canada inside, IIRC, a CAF Herk.
I'm pretty sure you are talking about yet another Me109e. The one that is still with Jim Pearce and has yet to find a customer.
PeterA
Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:12 pm
RickH wrote:Wasn't it discovered that one or more of the Casa airframes were actually German built ? I know that at least one of the JU-52s fell into that category .
No, no Hispano built aircraft are proved to be German built.
Andy you are thinking of wk nr. 3523 pulled from a lake, and currently stored with Jim Pearce, as Peter mentioned. Given the time capsule state of the machine I hope it is preserved 'as is', after conservation.
Dave
Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:47 am
Jim Pearce.....Speaking of:
I think Jim Pierce is selling another one. Werknummer 3523
Saw a pic of it in a magazine recently......forgot which one however.
Assembled ( somewhat ) and on it's gear with wings.
Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:11 am
Takes a bit of work to try and get all these 109s straight these days doesn't it? Guess we shouldn't complian considering more examples to get confused over means more 109s period!
Here are a few shots of what the Price/Russell example looks like these days.
And here is a shot of the rather not nice field they keep it at. The main grass runway has a distinct series of ridges and humps along its length and the gravel is... well loose gravel. A look at the props on the Spit/Huricane/109 that live there these days can attest to that. The few times I've flown in and out weren't the greatest experiences.
Anyone else have pictures to share to help put a face to the name with all these 109s being discussed?
Cheers
Edward
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