Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:33 pm
Tulio wrote:Mike:
Late PM yesterday, I drove by McConnell AFB's East gate (Rock Road) and saw again the KC-135 and the B-47, plus an F-105 on a stick, that I did not recall from my previous visit in 2001.
For the locator, these are South of Pawnee, on Rock Road, probably 1/4 of a mile or so.
I think I aready have the correct locations. I will check next week.
Thanks Tulio!
Mike
Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:24 am
Mike,
In case you do not have these yet:
Pratt, KS:
At the airport's entrance, there is a memorial to the B-29 crews; Pratt was the first B-29 base.
There are three aircraft on display:
An F-4 Phantom
An AH-1 Cobra
A T-38.
I will upload photos later today, as well as additonal identifying data.
Saludos,
Tulio
In case you do not have these yet:
Pratt, KS:
At the airport's entrance, there is a memorial to the B-29 crews; Pratt was the first B-29 base.
There are three aircraft on display:
An F-4 Phantom
An AH-1 Cobra
A T-38.
I will upload photos later today, as well as additonal identifying data.
Saludos,
Tulio
Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:34 am
Tulio wrote:There are three aircraft on display:
An F-4 Phantom
An AH-1 Cobra
A T-38.
I had the F-4 and T-38 noted, just not the AH-1. They are hard to pick out using Google Earth.
Mike
Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:37 pm
Okay Mike, here they are:
Phantom 37702
Cobra 0-15624
T-38 10814
Saludos,
Tulio
Phantom 37702
Cobra 0-15624
T-38 10814
Saludos,
Tulio
Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:18 pm
Hey! How about that. Another Houston C model survives in her original paint ! That makes 2. Too bad she has been defaced by painting Kansas on her tail.
Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:21 pm
RickH wrote:Hey! How about that. Another Houston C model survives in her original paint ! That makes 2. Too bad she has been defaced by painting Kansas on her tail.
I was just thinking the same thing!
But now they are defaced by the Texans logo! 
Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:43 pm
Yeah, I saw that last year. Wonder who's stupid idea that was. Maybe it's their way of saying we give up! They are supposed to lose their jets next year when the Block 25s are sent to the boneyard. 
Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:41 pm
From the paintjob, that looks an ex-Holloman AFB AT-38B. I think the patch is the 436th TFTS, but I'm not certain -- that was one of the Lead In Fighter Training squadrons (along with the 433rd, 434th, and 435th).
It may just be a T-38A, though -- it doesn't have the telltale features of a B model, like the centerline pylon. I can't see back above the burner cans to ID if there is a counter balance weight just below the rudder.
When I get home I'll check my AT-38B serial list and see if it is one. Otherwise it's a T-38A.
The serial number is probably 61-0814
It may just be a T-38A, though -- it doesn't have the telltale features of a B model, like the centerline pylon. I can't see back above the burner cans to ID if there is a counter balance weight just below the rudder.
When I get home I'll check my AT-38B serial list and see if it is one. Otherwise it's a T-38A.
The serial number is probably 61-0814
Tulio wrote:T-38 10814
Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:19 am
61-0814 is/was a T-38A, well it was in 1979 at any case. At that time it was with the 479th at Holloman. Before it was at Holloman it was at Webb AFB, transferring to Holloman at the end of 1973.