It started early...P-51 and ME-109ish

Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:37 pm

I found these photos of an airshow in Ft. Worth (Amon Carter Airport) in 1972
I'm the 7 year old snappy dresser :roll:

Anybody know which Mustang this is?

Zane

Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:53 pm

The Mustang looks to be a Cavalier variant. Was the ME 109 a CAF bird?

Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:38 pm

B-29 Super Fort wrote:The Mustang looks to be a Cavalier variant. Was the ME 109 a CAF bird?

Yes I believe that is the Old CAF 109. It Should be C4K-169 and should be registered as N109W.

I just cant figure out who's B-17 in the background.

Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:52 pm

Yep... that is Vernon Peterson's old Mustang. It was based at Denton for a few years.

http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p51regis ... 73142.html

http://www.mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/su ... 3142.shtml

I did just alittle bit of work on the tail cone at my old job. That was after it was wrecked and before it was sold to Banta.

Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:05 pm

The B-17 is/was also CAF based at Houston Hobby as part of Gulf Coast Wing.

I can't recall for sure but isn't that Mustang the one Charley Hilliard was KIFA on take off at Denton maybe 10 years ago?

The CAF 109 is one of the post WWII Spaniard jobs with the Merlin Engine and believe one of the ones used to film Battle of Britain with Michael Caine?

Regards,

Bill Marshall

Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:25 pm

Charley Hilliard was killed in a Fury I believe, Flipped over on landing.

Website · Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:31 pm

drgondog wrote:
I can't recall for sure but isn't that Mustang the one Charley Hilliard was KIFA on take off at Denton maybe 10 years ago?

Vernon S. Peterson, Valley View, TX, 1968-1978.
- Registered as N51PW, April 1978.
- Registered as N51VP, 19??.
Universal Life Church, TX, 1983-1984.
J. Bradford Enterprises, Prescott, AZ, 1987-1989.
- Crashed on take-off, Denton, TX, Sept. 6, 1989.
-- Peterson killed.

Guess this answers that.

Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:27 pm

must be something in the water in Denton County. Hilliard was KIFA heading out at Denton, lost power and tried to turn to comeback to runway instead of taking it straight in - and stalled out. Different Mustang and date - same airport.

Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:00 pm

Unless there is another Charlie Hilliard, I believe Charlie Hillard was killed at Sun-n-Fun in 96 when his Sea Fury flipped over on landing after a brake locked. He was asphixiated when his head was pinned forward.

Paul Morgan in the UK was killed in an identical accident as well.

So, if you ever buy a Fury/Sea Fury, or any plane with a bubble canopy, install a roll bar.

Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:02 pm

drgondog wrote:The B-17 is/was also CAF based at Houston Hobby as part of Gulf Coast Wing.

Bill Marshall

Does anyone have a picture of Raiders that would have a "triangle G" on the tail???

Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:15 pm

"Universal Life Church, TX, 1983-1984"!!!!!!!!

I'm a minister in that church!

http://www.ulc.net/ <- Click here to become a minister online for free!

Sounds like some tax shenanigans to me.

Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:51 pm

Peterson killed

A few post's above with show it. You have to check the fuel for water!
I saw the Me-109/Casa at San Marcos the next year, 1973, my first show. They had a small fire in it and left it out on the taxi way. Also the first time I met Lefty

Lynn

Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:38 am

I am going blind!

Where is the B-17??? All I see is what looks like a Lockheed twin, and an SB2C....

Tulio

Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:17 am

I thught it was just me who studied the backgrounds of photographs and films more than the foregrounds!
Ths B-17 is visable on the second photo behind the Lockheed twin, thats the one I was looking at!
Great shot by the way Ztex I'm glad your parents brought you up right! I hope you are doing the same with your kids

Rgds Cking

Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:10 am

Zane,

You are the first person that I have ever seen that has pictures from that Airshow other than myself. Strangely enough, I was also 7 years old at the time. Who knows we probably even ran into each other there

Here are a couple more pics from that airshow. The first one is a full shot of the B-17 that is now Texas Raiders.

This is one of the CAF P-40

The B-17 Picidilly Lilly II that is now being restored at Chino was also there

Diamond Lil

And one more showing the last B-36 produced "City of Ft Worth" that is now out at Pima.

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