SNV-1, T-28A
Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:27 am
Mike,
I am almost certain the SNV-1 that Bruce Koch had at "Thunder Over Michigan" as "California Girl" is N61916 and not N70030. I will check this when I get home tonight.
Also, I believe the T-28A in South Vietnamese colors that Jim Church mentioned is "Littl' Jugs", "AK", 50-221, NX221LH and registered to Trojan LLC which I believe to be Larry Hoffmeister.
Todd
I am almost certain the SNV-1 that Bruce Koch had at "Thunder Over Michigan" as "California Girl" is N61916 and not N70030. I will check this when I get home tonight.
Also, I believe the T-28A in South Vietnamese colors that Jim Church mentioned is "Littl' Jugs", "AK", 50-221, NX221LH and registered to Trojan LLC which I believe to be Larry Hoffmeister.
Todd
Re: SNV-1, T-28A
Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:43 am
toddhackbarth wrote:I am almost certain the SNV-1 that Bruce Koch had at "Thunder Over Michigan" as "California Girl" is N61916 and not N70030. I will check this when I get home tonight.
I certainly will never dig in my heels and suggest I am never wrong... as I have been publicly proven wrong before.
However... I just rechecked the registration for N70030 and it is a Valiant registered to Bruce R. Koch. Here is what I have on this one including the most recent FAA info...
Model: Vultee BT-13 Valiant
S/N: 42-42552 USAAF
C/N: 9630
C/R: N70030, BT-13, 9630
Owner: Bruce R. Koch
Codes: "California Girl", "71", "12614"
History: BT-13A (1943) 42-42552 USAAF, N70030
Now is it possible that Mr. Koch owns more than one valiant. I am assuming that c/n 9630 is in fact "California Girl". I have made bad assumptions before.
toddhackbarth wrote:Also, I believe the T-28A in South Vietnamese colors that Jim Church mentioned is "Littl' Jugs", "AK", 50-221, NX221LH and registered to Trojan LLC which I believe to be Larry Hoffmeister.
Thanks for this info Todd. I will assimilate the info into the list.
I just sent an email to those that were interested in a draft. I'll add you to the distribution Todd, and send an update with the new info tomorrow.
Regards,
Mike
SNV-1 N61916
Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:39 am
Mike,
Of course N61916 is also registered to Mr. Koch, as an SNV-1. I remember the pilot/plane information sheet that he filled out at the Grosse Ile Airshow stated that his plane was one of the very few SNVs still flying. N70030 is registered as a BT-13 and your data has it as a BT-13A 42-42552.
Airliners.net has a photo of the plane listed under N61916.
If I remember correctly, I had listed this airplane as N70030 on my early versions of my 2003 "Thunder Over Michigan" Air Display Aircraft Listing. Perhaps this is where N70030 entered the mix.
I will check my files tonight.
Todd
Of course N61916 is also registered to Mr. Koch, as an SNV-1. I remember the pilot/plane information sheet that he filled out at the Grosse Ile Airshow stated that his plane was one of the very few SNVs still flying. N70030 is registered as a BT-13 and your data has it as a BT-13A 42-42552.
Airliners.net has a photo of the plane listed under N61916.
If I remember correctly, I had listed this airplane as N70030 on my early versions of my 2003 "Thunder Over Michigan" Air Display Aircraft Listing. Perhaps this is where N70030 entered the mix.
I will check my files tonight.
Todd
Re: SNV-1 N61916
Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:19 pm
toddhackbarth wrote:Of course N61916 is also registered to Mr. Koch, as an SNV-1. I remember the pilot/plane information sheet that he filled out at the Grosse Ile Airshow stated that his plane was one of the very few SNVs still flying. N70030 is registered as a BT-13 and your data has it as a BT-13A 42-42552.
Airliners.net has a photo of the plane listed under N61916.
Good thing I never claim I am never wrong!
Will make the appropriate changes to the list.
Mike
Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:47 pm
As I was standing right next to the SNV, I copied the tail number N61916 directly off the right side of the plane. Bruce Koch has two BT's on the books.
I also copied the AD-5 tail number off the plane, and that one Mike is correct on, it is N39147 (no X anymore)
Although it was just a visitor on Friday, missing from your list is a Waco UPF-7 registered as NC 3015, does it count? (Should I tell Mike about the T-34 that was there on Friday also, in RCAF markings?shhhhhh)
I also copied the AD-5 tail number off the plane, and that one Mike is correct on, it is N39147 (no X anymore)
Although it was just a visitor on Friday, missing from your list is a Waco UPF-7 registered as NC 3015, does it count? (Should I tell Mike about the T-34 that was there on Friday also, in RCAF markings?shhhhhh)
Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:11 am
Roger Cain wrote:Although it was just a visitor on Friday, missing from your list is a Waco UPF-7 registered as NC 3015, does it count? (Should I tell Mike about the T-34 that was there on Friday also, in RCAF markings?shhhhhh)
Oh you are mean!
Give me the details on the other T-34. I'll put it on the list for the sake of completeness.
Mike
T-34 at Thunder Over Michigan on Friday
Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:52 am
Mike,
The T-34 that Roger is referring to is N344SG. You can see a photo of it at: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/175228/M/
Yes, it did have the canopy cover with the Canadian registration of C-FMDM I believe. It is registered to a Glenn Goldman of McLean, Virginia.
Todd
The T-34 that Roger is referring to is N344SG. You can see a photo of it at: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/175228/M/
Yes, it did have the canopy cover with the Canadian registration of C-FMDM I believe. It is registered to a Glenn Goldman of McLean, Virginia.
Todd
Glenn G's T-34
Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:37 pm
Todd/Mike--
That T-34 is the ex Don McNall/CWH Mentor; Glenn is another ex-CWHer and took the T-34 Stateside when he moved a few years back. He has posted to WIX on occasion. The Mentor, I recall, had one of the nicest paintjobs in the CWH fleet, similar to the late lamented first Mustang; a real beauty. Too bad Glenn was only there on the Friday--would've been neat to catch up with him, haven't seen him in ages.
S.
That T-34 is the ex Don McNall/CWH Mentor; Glenn is another ex-CWHer and took the T-34 Stateside when he moved a few years back. He has posted to WIX on occasion. The Mentor, I recall, had one of the nicest paintjobs in the CWH fleet, similar to the late lamented first Mustang; a real beauty. Too bad Glenn was only there on the Friday--would've been neat to catch up with him, haven't seen him in ages.
S.
Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:07 am
Yup, that's the one I was referring to..........