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Wingless P-40 in Minot ND

Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:24 am

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It is part of the Dakota Air Musem collection.
http://www.dakotaterritoryairmuseum.com./
Any idea which one it is?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:49 am

That isn't the ex-Diemert P-40, is it?

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Dan

Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:10 pm

Something looks amiss with that P-40 fuse. My guess is that it's a mock up and not the real deal.

Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:17 pm

Dan Jones wrote:That isn't the ex-Diemert P-40, is it?
Finally rendered safe by cutting the wings off????? :lol:

Maybe this one?
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/re ... ak863.html
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... rtxt=7205A
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_ ... 090&akey=1 :shock:

Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:40 pm

Yup. See pics here, including one in this paint job.

http://community.webshots.com/album/435702433IduqXv/6

Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:41 pm

Well well well!

That does indeed look like the former Bob Diemert "P-40". Which somewhat begs a question: I'd thought the Kittyhawk/P-40E "Shirley II" was this machine, remade into a stock P-40. Obviously at least the fuselage of Diemert's "P-40" was NOT used in that rebuild.

That makes sense, though: from what I recall, hardly any of the fuselage of Diemert's project was actually P-40 material, while the wings were largely original...Going on fallible memory, but I think "Old Exterminator" consisted of a partially-original cockpit section, original rebuilt wings, new-build rear fuselage, and tail surfaces a composition of Harvard and Bolingbroke parts. The engine may have been a Merlin rather than an Allison...?

Also IIRC, this may have been the former Granger Taylor project P-40; Granger used to run the engine occasionally. He disappeared some time around 1984 or so; not too long afterward this composite "P-40" turned up with Mr Diemert, who got it flying (!) only to have it come to grief en route to the USA a number of years ago.

S.

Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:44 pm

That sure looks like the Granger Taylor/Diemert Kittyhawk. The reason the rear fuse looks off is that it contains some Harvard parts...

Jim

Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:56 pm

Granger Taylor... wasn't he the "space cadet"....

Diemert P40F

Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:57 pm

Found this webshots site with a "family friend's" pictures of the Diemert aircraft,

The Museum fuselage does look like Diemerts airframe.



the P40 "F" "Old Exterminator"

http://community.webshots.com/photo/435702433/1507456611077288404TqEERH


pre-restoration the fuselage already appears to be a composite?
http://community.webshots.com/photo/435702433/1507459218077288404tpBQgk

I am not sure if this airframe is related? but it has the same cropped wings as the pre-restoration photo above, could this be prior to acquisition by Diemert?

http://community.webshots.com/photo/435702433/1494629815077288404jiYYxB

http://community.webshots.com/photo/435702433/1495937362077288404kZZvJm


The whole album is very interesting with rare pictures of Diemerts VAL divebomber being recovered as well as his Firefly!

regards

Mark Pilkington[/url]

Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:01 pm

woops,

just noticed that K5083 had already referenced this site via a link in a post above?

sorry for the duplication
regards

Mark P

Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:18 pm

Second set of photos is of the Maude family Kittyhawk AK803/RCAF 1034.

Jim

Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:30 am

Just wondering, has Diemert ever rebuilt an aircraft without using parts from other types of a/c or altering them in any sort of way????

T J

Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:39 pm

T J Johansen wrote:Just wondering, has Diemert ever rebuilt an aircraft without using parts from other types of a/c or altering them in any sort of way????

T J


The Hurricane CF-SMI.

Jim

Re: Wingless P-40 in Minot ND

Sat May 03, 2014 4:21 pm

Sorry to resurrect an 8 year old thread, but does anyone have any pics of the Diemert P-40 when it was in his hands? All of the links from this thread are down, and I've been going crazy trying to find a pic. Thanks in advance if anyone can help

Re: Wingless P-40 in Minot ND

Sat May 03, 2014 6:42 pm

mexchiwa wrote:Sorry to resurrect an 8 year old thread, but does anyone have any pics of the Diemert P-40 when it was in his hands? All of the links from this thread are down, and I've been going crazy trying to find a pic. Thanks in advance if anyone can help

I believe the one in this thread features the man himself...
viewtopic.php?p=96135
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