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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 8:55 pm 
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C-87 being reconditioned for use by the Bolivian government @ Dallas Love Field April 3, 1951.

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The postwar lives of C-87s might make an interesting book.
They ranged very far afield.

The best known is probably being the Morrison Knutson ship which eventually came to grief in Alaska. It's the airframe that was in storage in Colorado for many years and has recently moved to one of the Carolinas for restoration.

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I've always wondered if the C-87 was as difficult as described by Ernest K Gann in Fate is the Hunter.
Can anyone provide information on how they performed post war and how they were regarded.

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Olive Drab C-87 production on the left.

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Rick65 wrote:
I've always wondered if the C-87 was as difficult as described by Ernest K Gann in Fate is the Hunter.
Can anyone provide information on how they performed post war and how they were regarded.


I think Gann's account is complimentary compared to other sources like Ambrose's The Wild Blue...

Perhaps that was being older and more experienced than the run of the mill WWII bomber pilot, Gann could put the types weaknesses (and strengths) into proper context.

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Rick65 wrote:
I've always wondered if the C-87 was as difficult as described by Ernest K Gann in Fate is the Hunter.
Can anyone provide information on how they performed post war and how they were regarded.


From what I always heard, the biggest issue wasn't the plane, it was the payload, especially on the C-109 (the fuel tanker version). The B-24/C-87/C-109 was always known for being sensitive in pitch and having a relatively narrow Center of Gravity envelope, especially compared to the B-17. With the C-87 and C-109, the loadmasters weren't always as strict about making sure the load was properly balanced, making an already unforgiving plane even more unforgiving, also, the fuel bladders in the C-109 didn't have any form of baffling, so sloshing was a major issue, especially on landing. Add to that the horrible weather of the CBI, and it's a perfect combination to make it a not great fit.

I will defer to the guys who fly 'Lil for how it handles with normal loading, since that aircraft is quite literally the pattern which the C-87 was built off of.


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C-87 being reconditioned for use by the Bolivian government @ Dallas Love Field April 3, 1951.

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Can anyone tell where on Love Field this is?

Also, anyone else see so much FOD it makes their head spin? I cannot imagine cranking up right there without blowing debris every which way. The first thing I noticed was how dirty it looks in that work area. Maybe its just me....


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This is likely on what is now the main terminal ramp. Back in 1951 this was where most of the companies doing refurbishment/maintenance work were based as what is now Signature T3 was the location of the then active Lemmon Passenger Terminal. This link has an aerial photo from 1951 showing the main ramp. The north ramps (now Atlantic Aviation) can be seen at the bottom of this photo and are likely the hangars in the background of the photo.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/comment ... field_and/


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