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Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:47 am
The Dutch Transport Museum was set up in 2012 as a collaboration between various groups. They moved to their current location in Nieuw-Vennep in 2017 but this was always meant to be a temporary location. Unfortunately the plans for a permanent place fell through and after two years of searching for a new location in The Netherlands, they had to give up.
Vintage Aviation News article about closure:
Nederlands Transport Museum Set to Close - Vintage Aviation NewsObjects already for sale:
Collectieverkoop - Nederlands Transport Museum (
Google Translated version here)
The collection will disperse, with loaned objects going back to their owners, but many items will need a new home. No doubt the list above will grow over the next couple of weeks, but perhaps they will not put everything on an open website. A shame that we are losing this museum.
Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:26 am
I'm sure it will be kept in Europe, but I'd love to see the ex-EAL DC-2 return.
Too bad they didn't save a KLM DC-5.
With a few exceptions, North American museums are light on quality transport aircraft.
As expected, interwar types are rare (it was a shame that the Tallmantz Lockheed Orion was sold to Switzerland in the '60s.and Greg Herrick's collection was broken up with the aircraft going into private hands), and even some postwar types are not well represented: Martins, Convairs
Electras...the Boeing 377 is extinct.
Even early jets are very rare, aside from the VC-137Bs in Seattle and Tucson, I can't think of nice 707s or short DC-8s anywhere. The only 880 on display seems to the the Elvis jet.
Anyone (other than the prototypes in Seattle) have a restored early 727, 737, DC-9 out there? A L1011?
One airframe of genuine historic significance is the Viscount in Tucson. It was with TCA, and flew the first turbine revenue flight in North America. It was used as a charter aircraft and eventually given to Puma where it resides in its later paint and seems to have been untouched for decades.
Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:05 pm
JohnB wrote:I'm sure it will be kept in Europe, but I'd love to see the ex-EAL DC-2 return.
Too bad they didn't save a KLM DC-5.
With a few exceptions, North American museums are light on quality transport aircraft.
As expected, interwar types are rare (it was a shame that the Tallmantz Lockheed Orion was sold to Switzerland in the '60s.and Greg Herrick's collection was broken up with the aircraft going into private hands), and even some postwar types are not well represented: Martins, Convairs
Electras...the Boeing 377 is extinct.
Even early jets are very rare, aside from the VC-137Bs in Seattle and Tucson, I can't think of nice 707s or short DC-8s anywhere. The only 880 on display seems to the the Elvis jet.
Anyone (other than the prototypes in Seattle) have a restored early 727, 737, DC-9 out there? A L1011?
One airframe of genuine historic significance is the Viscount in Tucson. It was with TCA, and flew the first turbine revenue flight in North America. It was used as a charter aircraft and eventually given to Puma where it resides in its later paint and seems to have been untouched for decades.
CASM has a TCA viscount and an AC DC-9. Also a Boeing 247.
Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:59 pm
I knew about the Viscount and 247, didn't know about the DC-9.
I read on a Canadian site that some (who or how many I do not know, hopefully a lot) of enthusiasts would like the CASM to trade their Viscount for the one in Pima which flew the first turbine airline flight in North America.
It would be a good deal for Pima, getting a nice Viscount and good for the CASM to get the historic airframe (albeit one needing restoration).