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Fri May 03, 2024 6:31 pm
I believe the Bf-109 is the only remaining WWII Luftwaffe aircraft in its original paint. Looks awesome!
Fri May 03, 2024 8:21 pm
Thanks for posting those photos. I love the original paint, just history right before you!
Sat May 04, 2024 9:41 am
Nothing against the museum, but something that rare needs to be seen.
If they can't or won't, perhaps they should loan it to someplace who will display it.
Sat May 04, 2024 9:51 am
JohnB wrote:Nothing against the museum, but something that rare needs to be seen.
If they can't or won't, perhaps they should loan it to someplace who will display it.
they will be but right now the museum is going through a major rebuild program.
Sat May 04, 2024 10:00 am
mike furline wrote:I believe the Bf-109 is the only remaining WWII Luftwaffe aircraft in its original paint. Looks awesome!
The He-162 in Ottawa is in original paint as far as I know. But there are not that many out there!!
Sat May 04, 2024 3:08 pm
Another very cool collection of "war relics" in their original state.
"Preserving the aircraft in its original condition is extremely important as a cultural property.
This is because researchers in the future will be able to take a scientific approach to various things that happened at the time.
Restoring it is very meaningful, but if there are only a few specimens left in their original condition, they should definitely be preserved.
As a Japanese person, I wanted to preserve the A6M ZERO Fighter's paint film as it was at the time, not for the purpose of restoring it, but to protect it, to prevent corrosion and to strengthen it as necessary for preservation, and to explore the background of the time. We continue to scientifically analyze and preserve it.
(It is a pity that the only Japanese aircraft left with the original paint film are in this condition.)"..... Taizou Nakamura
Photo Source: Taizou Nakamura
Sat May 04, 2024 7:17 pm
I like the approach of displaying aircraft in their original paint if possible, as noted above Axis warbirds in original schemes are rare but there are a few Allied aircraft I can think of, e.g. in the UK Spitfire 1 R6195 at the Imperial War Museum in London and the Corsair and Martlet at the FAA Museum, plus the decision of the Smithsonian to tidy up the original paint on their P-38 and P-61 and display them as such.
Incidentally I believe the Bf109G above was the subject of an attempt by a British collector (I won't name) to smuggle it out of the country by putting some sort of silver coating on it and claiming to Aussie Customs that it was a P-51! Fortunately it didn't seem to have harmed the original paintwork..
Sun May 05, 2024 10:47 pm
The MK II Spitfire that is at the AWM is also in original paint.
Mon May 06, 2024 4:15 am
Brenden S wrote:The MK II Spitfire that is at the AWM is also in original paint.
Sort of.It was repainted in 1945 before she came to Australia.
Mon May 06, 2024 9:55 am
Supposedly, the Ju 87R Stuka in the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry still retains most of its original paint. I'm not sure how much though. I know it had some repair work done by the EAA back in the 1970s, and the current paintwork shows some obvious touchups, especially on the underside.
SN
Mon May 06, 2024 12:03 pm
Isn't Flak Bait a rather obvious example of an aircraft still in its WW2 condition?
Mon May 06, 2024 8:00 pm
quemerford wrote:Isn't Flak Bait a rather obvious example of an aircraft still in its WW2 condition?
Indeed it is, and looking forward to seeing this famous combat vet completed and on display.
Tue May 07, 2024 7:42 pm
There are a few WWII aircraft here in New Zealand displayed in their original paint. I took these photos before it went into the museum.
Curtiss P-40N Warhawk NZ3220 "Gloria Lyons" at the Omaka Aviation Heritage Centre


And Lockheed Hudson NZ2049, a significant combat veteran, displayed at the same museum in a mock jungle crash scene in its original wartime paint scheme.

Also P-40E NZ3043 "Bess" is being restored to fly again, and they hope to retain its original WWII paint on that if they can.
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