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Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:27 pm

The Great Tennessee Airshow took place over this past weekend. The speakers were, as usual, placed 8 feet in front of the fences, facing the crowd. The music was unnecessarily loud and played at all times there wasn't anything going on. There were no commercials or messages in particular; just super loud bro-country songs. It was excruciating, annoying, and just dumb.

Why? I don't require aural stimulation the entire time I am on air show property. I want to hear my scanner, talk to my friends, and enjoy engine sounds. Do organizers believe that air show attendees need something happening at them at all times to hold their attention?

In honor of the late, great Mudge, I am

Dave the temporarily-hearing impaired

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Last edited by DaveG on Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:54 am, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:23 pm

Annoyingly loud music with non-stop commercials and announcers that cannot stop talking are the primary reasons I stopped attending airshows. I can remember the small shows from years ago when it was early morning with no music at all and just the thunder of piston engines warming up for the day's flying. I can also remember the small shows where your ticket price included a catered meal at picnic tables. Also the jet aircraft take so much time to pre-flight that they usually idle on the ramp during the entire piston displays and you cannot hear anything but high-pitched turbines.

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:37 pm

One of the reasons I stopped going in years ago and I don't miss it a bit, can't even hear yourself think with that garbage blaring out - I guess you can count yourself as lucky they allowed scanners, even though you could not hear it.

Other reasons:
* Banning coolers. With no ability to bring in your own refreshments or food, you are forced to go without, or pay exorbitant costs
* No shade, gets old after a few hours, gets old quick the older you get
* Really not that good of a view of performing aircraft compared to spots that can be found on the perimeter
* Admission has gotten off the hook

You do miss browsing the statics, and that is the only downside. Don't want to sound like a complete leech, every year I donate to the show, then I'll find my spot, pitch my pop up shelter, fire up the grill, put my scanner on and wait for the aircraft to fly overhead.

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:06 pm

Went to the Dayton Air Show last year and paid extra for the photo pit. They hard those speakers on the ground playing the annoying music and just before the show started someone came along and placed the speakers on a pole that was about six feet high. Ended up not being a real distraction but you have to wonder WHY!

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:19 pm

Bad announcers that don't know when to shut up is one reason I was drafted to announce the Warbird show at the Copperstate Fly-in when it was held at Gateway Airport, I did it for 3 yrs. I ad-libbed the entire show the first year as I had all of 15min notice, The show was almost a hour long, as the planes were turning around or not in front of the crowd, I was doing the color part, telling about the plane, it's history and owner, but once it started a pass down the show line, the only sound was the engine as it went by.

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:05 pm

DaveG wrote:In honor of the late, great Mudge, I am
Dave the temporarily-hearing impaired

Image
Mudge the cheerful would approve!

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:19 pm

Ol' Mudge is sorely missed, one of the WIX greats for sure.

Pogo the appreciative.

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:07 am

Amen, there should be a cut off when an aircraft makes a pass, I want to hear the aircraft not some incessant commentary: "there she goes folks, the P-51 Mustang, just listen to that howl! the aircraft that won the war, blah, blah, blah...."

And yes stop with the loud music- it is awful.

Less is indeed more.

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:28 am

sandiego89 wrote:Amen, there should be a cut off when an aircraft makes a pass, I want to hear the aircraft not some incessant commentary: "there she goes folks, the P-51 Mustang, just listen to that howl! the aircraft that won the war, blah, blah, blah...."

And yes stop with the loud music- it is awful.

Less is indeed more.


My favorite is when they say "I just love the sound of that Merlin," and then proceed to talk over it.

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:38 am

The best setup is Oshkosh. The speakers are well behind the crowd line and have a reasonable volume for those in the front row.

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:54 am

I went to the La Ferte Alais show in France a couple of years ago, after having been there more than a decade earlier. In those years gone by the music was much louder, and more annoying. I don't mind loud music, I go to rock and heavy metal concerts all the time. But, when I'm at an airshow the planes ought to be the main attraction, not music blaring from the speakers with no escape. This however seems to be what the promotors want. They look to give you an experience more than an airshow. Don't mind it's a bad experience, where the planes are just a part of the overall picture. I still haven't stopped going to shows, but can understand those who do.

T J

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:59 am

It's a great song, with great lyrics, but I NEVER need to hear Lee Greenwood's - God Bless the USA - again....

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:52 am

kalamazookid wrote:
sandiego89 wrote:Amen, there should be a cut off when an aircraft makes a pass, I want to hear the aircraft not some incessant commentary: "there she goes folks, the P-51 Mustang, just listen to that howl! the aircraft that won the war, blah, blah, blah...."

And yes stop with the loud music- it is awful.

Less is indeed more.


My favorite is when they say "I just love the sound of that Merlin," and then proceed to talk over it.


The late Bernard Chabbert was a glaring example of that at Flying Legends. Every year when I heard his voice as the show started my heart sank.
If anything, he made it worse by saying he was going to be quiet while the aircraft flew past, and then carrying on anyway.

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:13 pm

Warbirdnerd wrote:It's a great song, with great lyrics, but I NEVER need to hear Lee Greenwood's - God Bless the USA - again....


The phrase "done to death" comes to mind...

Re: Air Show Speaker volume and placement

Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:54 am

Undoubtedly there's some good airshow announcers out there, but in my experience they are mostly irritating - especially the ones who get excited and start yelling. Maybe the general public likes that and likes the tinny sounding music, but I doubt it.
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