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Classic Wings Magazine WWII Naval Aviation Research Pacific Luftwaffe Resource Center
When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:24 pm 
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... required a strict program of beginner link trainer to B-36 flight simulator.

or something like that ...

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I'm sure it all started with The Atom.

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The Curtiss-Wright B-36 simulator contained an actual cockpit for pilot, copilot and flight
engineer. Behind the cockpit is the instructor's compartment.

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Eventually the actual flying begins.

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XB-36 42-13570

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Mark: Did you notice that the simulator was the "portable" one? Some good shots of the XB there.


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The last cockpit photo is the XC-99 flight deck.

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Reminds me of that line in Apollo 13 "imagine a computer, that could fit in a single room" :shock:


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All that computing power is likely contained in my smart phone, no doubt.


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DH82EH wrote:
Reminds me of that line in Apollo 13 "imagine a computer, that could fit in a single room" :shock:


I was watching Apollo 13 a few days ago thinking about how they achieved the simulators at NASA, hadn't realised such things went as far back as the B-36!


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The last cockpit photo is the XC-99 flight deck.

Correct indeed. "Convair XC-99 flight deck during flight. Photo: June 28, 1952." Note the triple columns of double-pointer engine instruments over the flight engineer for the six Pratt & Whitney R-4360-41s.

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Convair XC-99 at Kelly Air Force Base, San Antonio, Texas, USA. June 19, 1952.

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Stinson L-13 with the Convair XC-99. 16 March 1949

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I crawled all through the XB-99 while parked outside Kelly AFB back in the late 60's before it was fenced in. The only thing I was worried about was finding a large yellowjacket nest while up in the tail section...


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I crawled around everything in the airplane - including within the wings - back in early 1977 when the XC-99 was across the road from Kelly AFB. A group of people were working to build an aviation museum around this.

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Too bad that sim isn't around today.It would be a hoot to fly.


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lucky52 wrote:
Too bad that sim isn't around today.It would be a hoot to fly.
You wouldn't be able to fly it even if it still existed. No way it'd still work and nobody would be able to fix the thing.

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Imagine the first crews, getting used to taxiing (and landing) an aircraft from such a high vantage point.

I suppose the Boeing Stratocruiser (C-97) would have been a decent trainer for ground handling.

To help 747 crews, Boeing made a elevated ground trainer.

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What museum would not love to have that simulator set up in thier collection? Visitors would LOVE to sit in it. you could run it as a premium add on attraction

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