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Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:45 am

THE CASE OF JAMES LEININGER: AN AMERICAN CASE OFTHE REINCARNATION TYPE
Jim B.Tucker,MD

Mentions:
Cavanaugh Flight Museum
Natoma Bay
James Huston
Jack Larsen

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27079216/
https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-stu ... 000331.pdf
https://thecinemaholic.com/where-is-jam ... uston-die/
https://www.journalofscientificexplorat ... /2361/1475 (for the con view)
https://michaelsudduth.com/crash-and-bu ... -debunked/ (more on the con view)

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:12 pm

....and cue Twilight Zone music

This is pretty wild, I have met folks who claim to have been someone else before, and it is pretty hard to believe when they have no proof, but it might be possible.

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:22 pm

Anyone remember that scene from "Bull Durham" where Crash asks Annie why people always think they're reincarnated from someone famous (or in this case, quite interesting)?
Heck, as a kid, I was handed an M-1 rifle and I suddenly had a feeling I knew how to take it apart and asked the owner if I could. He laughed and said to go for it. Moments, later, I had it taken completely apart, and I then put it right back together again as if I'd done it a million times. I'd never even seen one in person prior to that and for sure never watched anyone do so or read about it.
But does that mean I think I'd been in WW2 in another life? Of course I don't.
I give this example of something that might support it, but think of all the other times in my life where I thought I knew something and fell flat on my face. You don't remember those cases because they're so common; That's what usually happens!
Just like when someone is thinking of someone and they suddenly call, and you think there's a connection. But you never think of all the times you thought of someone and they didn't call, because that's what usually happens.

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:18 am

Lol, Kermit weeks is one of these guys too

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:50 pm

At the risk of being pedantic....
If you read the linked material, you will see the pilot was flying a FM-2 when he was lost, not a Corsair.

He was flying from a CVE, and to the best of my knowledge, Corsairs did not operate from them...or if they did (in this hobby you never say never) not often.
Finally the skepticist in his rebuttal blows any pretense of objectivity when he fails to back up arguments and does some religious based name calling.

So, in the absence of any proof or even overwhelming objectivity, reading that stuff was a waste of time.

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:48 am

JohnB wrote:So, in the absence of any proof or even overwhelming objectivity, reading that stuff was a waste of time.
My wife related the story to me after she heard it on a YouTube video. She was excited to tell me since she knows I have an interest in WW2 era aviation. I had to look up the story to fill in the details. I am forever skeptical about stories like this. If I find out different though when I get to the other side I will post it on this thread. ;-)

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:57 pm

bdk wrote:If I find out different though when I get to the other side I will post it on this thread. ;-)



Yes, we'll need a full report!

Don't worry, we're in no hurry.

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:58 pm

I used to believe in reincarnation but that was long ago … in another life.
But just in case, I left everything in my will to myself.

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:58 am

JohnB wrote:At the risk of being pedantic....
If you read the linked material, you will see the pilot was flying a FM-2 when he was lost, not a Corsair.

He was flying from a CVE, and to the best of my knowledge, Corsairs did not operate from them...or if they did (in this hobby you never say never) not often.
Finally the skepticist in his rebuttal blows any pretense of objectivity when he fails to back up arguments and does some religious based name calling.

So, in the absence of any proof or even overwhelming objectivity, reading that stuff was a waste of time.


Well as you say, never say never... Corsairs deployed on quite a few CVE's both for training and operational patrols including combat cruises aboard the Vella Gulf in the Marians in 1944, the USS Gilbert Islands for Okinawa, USS Cape Glouster, etc etc... and all the way up to Korea, such as the 1951 combat cruises on the USS Renova.

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:58 am

JohnB wrote:
bdk wrote:If I find out different though when I get to the other side I will post it on this thread. ;-)

Yes, we'll need a full report!
Don't worry, we're in no hurry.

Haha! Thank you for that.

This has been a fun discussion.

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:12 pm

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Daisy June was a F4U-1D Corsair assigned to the VMF-511 aboard the USS Block Island (CVE-106)

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F4U-1D Corsair of VMF-224 on the catapult ready to launch from the escort carrier USS Sitkoh Bay CVE-86 March 28, 1945.

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VMF-512 F4U-1D Corsair about to launch from USS Gilbert Islands CVE-107, 6 March, 1945.

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VMF-512 F4U-1D Corsair about to launch from USS Gilbert Islands CVE-107, 6 March, 1945.

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VMF-321 White 042 aboard USS-Kwajalein

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:31 pm

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VMF-321 White 042 aboard USS-Kwajalein[/quote]

Something odd going on here! Control locks are in place, looks like a firefighter is in the cockpit and the flap's are not down. And I've never see shell casing ports taped over b4(wouldn't that prevent the shells from coming out?) End of the war deep sixing unneeded aircraft?? Is there a date with the photo Mark? This ones a bit odd!!

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:39 pm

The aircraft is tied down/chocked, other than the firefighter it looks like your typical high power engine run.

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:22 pm

Activities aboard USS Gilbert Islands (CVE-107). TBM, F4U Corsairs, and F6F Hellcats take off, fly, land, and practice bombing over the ocean. Refueling, and a man transferred from a converted flush-deck destroyer via buoy line. Shots of Lt. Norman R. Reichwald

https://digital.tcl.sc.edu/digital/coll ... 1840/rec/3

Aboard USS Cape Gloucester (CVE-109) F4U Corsairs (VMF-351), F6F Hellcats, and TBM Avengers (VMTB-132) are shown taking off and landing throughout film, during both calm and rough seas. One Corsair lands with a rocket still remaining on pod; the rocket falls to the flight deck when the plane lands. Gun camera footage. Rough seas shipboard preparations include building fence for planes. Lt Benton and Lt. Fulton prepare to go on reconnaissance mission.

https://digital.tcl.sc.edu/digital/coll ... 1869/rec/4

Re: Reincarnation of a WW2 Corsair Pilot?

Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:21 am

Onboard carriers the ejection ports were frequently taped over before the arrival of plugs designed to close the ports. Previously, rain water and sea spray had been running down the folded wings to cause corrosion and rot inside the wings. (Source: RG 72 BuAer records, US National Archives, College Park.)

PS - I think I may have been Shirley Maclaine in a previous life!

Cheers,



Dana
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