Surplus question

[exhaustgases]

I thought I read someplace here awhile back that you can not get any government military surplus aircraft or parts any more?
And includes museums that would be closing as well. Is that true?

[Tulio]

Since the knowledgeable guys have not yet answered your question, I will tell you what I remember about this.

DRMO, was (don´t know if still is) the government agency tasked with selling surplus stuff from Uncle Sam.

According to what I read in their web page eons ago, military aircraft were not only "de-milled" but also rendered unflyable.

IIRC, if you bought an airplane or helicopter, actually you were buying the aircraft chopped to pieces.

I have no clue as to how museums may get their aircraft for display. From those I have seen displayed, at a minimum the engines are removed, and of course, ejection seats pyro and classified military equipment.

I am interested in reading the postings of those who really know.


Saludos,


Tulio

[4RG.I.'S]

I thought I read someplace here awhile back that you can not get any government military surplus aircraft or parts any more?
And includes museums that would be closing as well. Is that true?

Not exactly... For example, there are a few different online auction sites that sell (including currently running auctions) parts, somewhat complete or complete flying/airworthy aircraft.
Some sites are:
GSA auction https://gsaauctions.gov/gsaauctions/aucindx/
Currently listing a C-130 and P-3 mostly complete for parts and a Shorts C-23B that I believe is airworthy-potentially airworthy.

Gov deals https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=M ... ategory=03

No current militar/warbird but does list on occasion.

And Public Surplus https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/brows ... s?catid=19

Also nothing current but has in the past.
These are a couple I follow. There have been warbirds/ex military aircraft from the Gubmint as well as some from various tech schools closing.

[martin_sam_2000]

I am pretty sure that the rule is that scarp yards cant sell full airplanes anymore. Once an aircraft is sold for scrap it must be scrapped. For example, I seem to recall that the scrapper hired to do the Chanute aircraft got in trouble cause they sold a few ejection seats and what not as is, and didnt scrap them, which goes against the above rule.

The Government is able to sell aircraft as they see fit, either to a scrap yard, another government agency or to the public. As for musuems, many of the AF and Navy aircraft are still owned by the respective military branch and is loaned to a museum.

if anyone out there is better informed than me, by all means, please correct me!

Sean

[exhaustgases]

So wasn't there a military museum that had some old recip prop planes that were scrapped instead of being sold?
If they are trashing good old history its time someone write to the white house and get that fixed.

[shrike]

So wasn't there a military museum that had some old recip prop planes that were scrapped instead of being sold?
If they are trashing good old history its time someone write to the white house and get that fixed.

As I recall they were offered "Free to Good Home" but also AS IS-WHERE IS first.

If I put on my museum hat, and I have to take a quarter million out of budget, or worse, raise a quarter million from scratch, I'm much more likely to invest that in maintaining my current collection, or making infrastructure investments at my facillities than I am paying to move a hulk across the country.
While B-17s may garner disproportionate loyalty, acquiring a C-133 for anything more than free and delivered will not have any real ROI.

[menards]

I thought I read someplace here awhile back that you can not get any government military surplus aircraft or parts any more?
And includes museums that would be closing as well. Is that true?

Here is an article regarding an ex-jordanian F-16 for sale. Seems like there is a lot of red tape to owning a more modern military craft.

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your ... he-market/

[exhaustgases]

I think this is what I've been talking about.

And the reason to contact the white house, what a total waste.


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Cvairwerks
Only way they can be saved is get them pulled from the auction. Auction specifies that they have to be rendered into shredded scrap by the buyer.
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And read the post below this one
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The following are all up for auction through Government Liquidation as a single lot:

F-105B
F-105F
T-39
C-47
C-97
C-133
B-66
HU-16
LGM-30A

All to be demilled on site to codes C and D (Destroy item and components to prevent restoration or repair to a usable condition) before removal.
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And really a C97 and what could the BAHF outfit use????