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Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:09 pm
Mark Allen M wrote:An RCAF Canadair CL-13 Sabre modification. No stated information on these photos. Not sure what this modification was intended to achieve.

From what i can find, it was to test the area rule concept in the f-86. The hunps were made from wood and aluminium and appeteantly it was found to not benefit performance at all.
Sean
Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:39 pm
Probably a fairing for additional engine accessories.
A left field guess...an attempt to make it conform to area rule (like the back end of an F-102)?
Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:43 pm
Lovely photos Mark. Many thanks!
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quemerford on Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:32 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:01 am
It's to store beer. It's Canadian and every Canadian I know always has a magical ever full trunk of beer. So that must be what it's for.
Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:07 am
Ding ding ding ding ding!!!!!!
We have a winner!
Well done Scott.
Andy
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:48 am
Yeah, looks like an area ruling experiment. F-86 probably wasn't fast enough to make good use from it. Early F-102s were not area ruled. The later ones were however.
Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:02 pm
I found this Wikipedia on the Area Rule pretty interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_rule
Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:21 pm
Neat but I don't see any speed brakes on this one..
Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:19 pm
quemerford wrote:Lovely photos Mark. Many thanks!
The information you posted was solid gold as usual. May I ask for you to post it again? I’d like to add it to my archives.
Thanks kindly
Mark
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:44 pm
Mark Allen M wrote:quemerford wrote:Lovely photos Mark. Many thanks!
The information you posted was solid gold as usual. May I ask for you to post it again? I’d like to add it to my archives.
Thanks kindly
Mark
Certainly: I assumed folks were having more fun guessing what it might have all been about:
23021 first flight 24 October 1953, then to 11 Technical Services Unit at Canadair 11 January 1955 for conversion as shown; then to National Aeronautical Establishment, Uplands on 3 February 1955. However looking at those dates, I'd strongly suspect that the conversion was done Oct53 thru Jan55 and that the 11 TSU assignment was for acceptance etc.
Then back to 11 TSU 10 December 1956, "...for restoration to original configuration and embodiment of all outstanding 6A and 6B mods" and assigned to 1 (F) OTU at Chatham on 12 August 1957. Retired to 6 RD Mountain View 22 September 1969 and sold to Maritime Aircraft Overhaul & Repair Ltd of Moncton NB (David S McEwen) and on to Flight Systems Inc, of Mojave CA (registered N1049D May 1979); converted to QF-86E drone for US Army and written off on 1 February 1980 after ground station malfunction at White Sands NM.
I still think it's beer-related.
Wed May 02, 2018 5:52 pm
Sadly, it appears the photos have gone now so I can't see what you guys were looking at.
Wed May 02, 2018 10:49 pm
CAPFlyer wrote:Sadly, it appears the photos have gone now so I can't see what you guys were looking at.

Still works for me...or he fixed 'em since your post at 5:52.
Thu May 03, 2018 4:35 pm
I noticed this morning that all of Mark's photos on all posts on flickr are no longer visible on Firefox, but I just went to Chrome and they are there. Obviously a browser issue.
Doug
Thu May 03, 2018 4:36 pm
Nope, still not working for me. Flickr says that "This photo is no longer available" both here and when I click the link. I've tried clearing the cache and all that fun stuff, but it doesn't change it. I can oddly see Mark's pictures in other threads just fine. It's only these that are giving me trouble. I've used Chrome, Firefox, and (ugh) IE with the same issue.
I also noticed that when I go to Flickr and try to report the problem, it takes me to the OATH sign-in page, so I'm thinking it's something to do with that whole Flickr/SmugMug/AOL/Yahoo/etc. "consolidation" that's going on.
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