Erickson Messerschmitt flies

[bdk]

Will an Allison fit under an "E" cowling?

[StangStung]

Boy what I wouldn't give for that package deal of four Buchons now. Restore the airframes as is, and fabricate four new E-model QECs. And boom; four (somewhat accurate) looking Battle of Britain BF-109Es. Ready for Ridley Scott's new Battle of Britain movie.

Nothing to it, amirite?!?

[Warbird Kid]

Boy what I wouldn't give for that package deal of four Buchons now. Restore the airframes as is, and fabricate four new E-model QECs. And boom; four (somewhat accurate) looking Battle of Britain BF-109Es. Ready for Ridley Scott's new Battle of Britain movie.

Nothing to it, amirite?!?

Oh I'm sure theres PLENTY to it.

[lmritger]

Will an Allison fit under an "E" cowling?

That's a good question. I suspect the Erickson team went with the later G-10/K-4 style streamlined cowlings because they allow more room than a standard 109 cowling; when the DB 603 supercharger was bolted on the stock DB 605 during the war, the port side engine bearer was significantly enlarged which required more space beneath the cowling. The right side received roughly the same treatment (although the cowls are not perfectly symmetrical- many folks don't realize this) so you have quite a bit of space to work with in there compared to, say, an Emil cowling which is quite tightly fitted around the crankcase of the DB 601.

Going from memory, which isn't always a good thing, the Merlin is only a little bit wider than the Allison at it's widest point up top, so I don't think you'd be able to pull together a similarly effective conversion for an Emil using a V-1710; you'd wind up with a hybrid cowling not unlike what you see on Buchons fitted with their Merlins.

Lynn

[OD/NG]

The Erickson Buchon BEFORE:



The Erickson Buchon/Bf-109G-10 AFTER: (photo by Randy Malmstrom)



Look at these two pictures, before and after. On the before, it appears that the landing gear legs are short, and squatty, whereas on the after, it appears that the landing gear legs are a lot longer. Is this a visual illusion, or are the landing gear completely identical between the two, not having been modified at all?

Thanks.

[EW439]

The shock struts are just flat in the first picture.

[DH82EH]

I think the difference is an illusion.
Contributing factors are, the height at which the photos were taken are quite different. Above the wing VS below the wing.
The Buchon chin is much lower where it meets the fuselage.
The struts may very well be deflated.

The Allison Gustav looks the business!
I really like the innovation and engineering that enabled this great mod.
I'd love to see some more video of it in action (hint, hint....)

Andy

[Richard W.]

Boy what I wouldn't give for that package deal of four Buchons now. Restore the airframes as is, and fabricate four new E-model QECs. And boom; four (somewhat accurate) looking Battle of Britain BF-109Es. Ready for Ridley Scott's new Battle of Britain movie.

Holy Cow that would rock for airshows!

"The Abbeville Boys Demonstration Team"

[Zac Yates]

A great idea! Tear in for the opening pass like the Battle of France airfield attack scene in The Battle Of Britain, no warning!

[Martin Decarli]

Hi friends
I find one of markings of the Buchon
as ISRAELI AVIA S 199
!
It is very interested for me, as czech fan

flown the N700E or it is marking for movie?????

Thank you foe the info

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[John Dupre]

The Israeli paint scheme was done for a documentary on the Mahal or foreign volunteers who flew for Israel in 1947-1949.

[Martin Decarli]

Thanks John!
If I understand - Buchon in the marking was not in sky....

1 Have You next photos of the marking "Avia" ? I finded onle the I would like will do model to my collection
2. Know You name of the documentary movie ?

Still one thanks
Martin

[Michel Lemieux]

Martin....great first port...

John....help the uneducated....have a link??

Ome day I hope I get to visit the museum.....

[Dan K]

...Know You name of the documentary movie ?...

Above and Beyond


https://aboveandbeyondthemovie.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgVvUgpIfIQ

[JohnB]

I've seen the documentary on TV, very well done.

Last month I passed through Madras, saw the museum but it was closed.
Not too far from me, it will make a nice summer trip with the WAAAM right on the way.