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Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:45 pm

The top picture of Gary Levitz's P-38 "Double Trouble" is from 1977.....that was the year Ralph and Gary had started stripping the grey 'shark mouth' paint off of it, but only had the leading edges of the wings done by the time they took it to Reno and Harlingen. At the bottom of the post is the same airplane in it's bare metal scheme with the red 38 on the tail. That was '78-80, but I see Mike Smith's P-63 "What Price Speed" in the background, so that looks to be Airsho '79.

Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:08 pm

I found this one recently and was saving it for just such a thread:

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It was in (of all places) the 1967 Mercedes, Texas High School yearbook.

Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:30 pm

And I pulled these images from an old VHS tape; WGN-TV news story about the CAF arriving for the Rockford, IL airshow in 1981:
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Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:18 am

Great pictures! I like the idea of a bunch of friends getting together and flying! I used to do that a lot and got to do it again last weekend for the first time in years.

Non B17 knowledgeable here. Are those B17's real "F"s? Looks like it. Never really looked before but I thought F's were rare. If I remember right, most of the planes I see now are G's.

One more for the road, Why is the Tail gear down?

Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:10 am

Mark Allen M wrote:Another favorite ...

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No intent to thread hijack, just a quick question....

Isn't this plane being resurrected? Last I saw, it was in pieces in San Marcos many, many years ago. Was it traded or purchased?
Thanks!

Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:22 am

maradamx3 wrote:
Mark Allen M wrote:Another favorite ...

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No intent to thread hijack, just a quick question....

Isn't this plane being resurrected? Last I saw, it was in pieces in San Marcos many, many years ago. Was it traded or purchased?
Thanks!




Quick answer:

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... ertxt=38LL

Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:47 am

Looks like at one point Devil Dog had some flat paint applied. Nice!

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and later on a glossy finish ... Still nice!

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Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:59 am

Yep! those rebs' could sure (and still do) put on a show. Made the hours and hours long drive to Midland well worth it in the 90's.

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Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:13 am

That photo of the F-82........oh my! What a beautiful shot.

Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:17 am

Mark Allen M wrote:
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Wow...

Just wow...

Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:25 am

Dan K wrote:
maradamx3 wrote:
Mark Allen M wrote:Another favorite ...

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No intent to thread hijack, just a quick question....

Isn't this plane being resurrected? Last I saw, it was in pieces in San Marcos many, many years ago. Was it traded or purchased?
Thanks!




Quick answer:

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... ertxt=38LL


That quick answer is deceiving. The original Scatterbrain Kid crashed in Lafayette, LA in 1974. Here is the narrative: http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviat ... 2992&key=0

The CAF then found a second airframe, used the same N number and called it Scatterbrain Kid II. It was restored with the second seat from the then Champlin P-38M (now at Museum of Flight) and a photo nose. This is the airplane that had engine issues at Breckenridge in 1994 and crashed in the scrub brush. It is now at Westpac being restored for Flying Heritage Collection. It looked like this under the CAF: http://p38assn.org/images/surviving/scatterbrain.jpg

Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:35 am

... and like this in the dark

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Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:41 am

That poor P/F-82 ...

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CAF P-82 flying over Harlingen Tx. in the late 70's

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CAF P-82 in the 80's at Midland? (1987?)

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Photo credits: unknown

Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:28 am

Mark Allen M wrote:So who did you's state this gent is again?

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Mark, he is Brig. General Regis F. A. Urschler, USAF (Ret.), better know as Reg to friends. He retired from the USAF in 1985 and for many years was the primary sponsor and pilot of the CAF P-51D "Gunfighter". There is a pretty good bio at the link below. Hope that helps. Randy

http://www.gml2007.com/legends/urschler.shtml

Re: The fascination had to start somewhere ...

Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:05 am

"The Defender" has some great footage of the Confederate Air Force back in the day as well. The link below is skipped ahead to one of their segments. For anyone who hasn't seen this film I would highly recommend it!
https://youtu.be/ZvbQMqd0kEY?t=1369
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