Wanna buy a Warbird? C-119s and C-123 up for auction in CA

JohnB · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:05 am

Does anyone know if the rest of the warbird community know about this sale?

Somewhere some museum might need a nice stock 119 (or perhaps if worse comes to worse, the nose to replace the incorrect big radar nose seem on some in museums).
Again, like a C-47 or C-46...it might make a neat support plane for a warbird tour.

wendovertom · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:06 am

interesting - looking at the photos of the C-119 at Fox field and the photos the GSA has up of the C-119 at Edwards they seem to be somewhat intermixed. I agree with Malo83 - it would take a powerball winner and the commitment to bring one of these birds back to flying - I would not love to see it!! And to be honest it would be nice to get the instrument panels, yokes and seats out of the C-123 for the one here in Wendover.

Tom P.

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:20 pm

wendovertom wrote:

interesting - looking at the photos of the C-119 at Fox field and the photos the GSA has up of the C-119 at Edwards they seem to be somewhat intermixed. I agree with Malo83 - it would take a powerball winner and the commitment to bring one of these birds back to flying - I would not love to see it!! And to be honest it would be nice to get the instrument panels, yokes and seats out of the C-123 for the one here in Wendover.

Tom P.

What I wouldn't give to see a 1950's era C-119 out on the airshow circuit. Not to mention, you could fit a few Jeeps in the back! Of course the biggest obstacle (next to a complete restoration) would be to keep a pair of P&W R-4360's happy and running well.

Matt Gunsch · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:32 pm

Warbird Kid wrote:

What I wouldn't give to see a 1950's era C-119 out on the airshow circuit. Not to mention, you could fit a few Jeeps in the back! Of course the biggest obstacle (next to a complete restoration) would be to keep a pair of P&W R-4360's happy and running well.

Depends on which model the C-119 is, The Flight of the Phoenix C-119 has 3350s

wendovertom · **Posted:** Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:46 pm

Both are bound to be pretty stripped out - but the C-119 at Fox would be easier to work on. BUT the info says that there is an issue with the gear preventing it from being even towed. :shock:

And here I was just getting over not having won the big one a couple of weeks ago. . . LOL

Tom P.

eze240 · **Joined:** Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:32 pm **Posts:** 117

I wonder if the gear problem has anything to do with the gear part stored in its cargo hold...maybe it just needs to be installed...probably needs tires too...
It's probably possible to tow the Edwards aircraft to Lancaster...been awhile since I was out there, but there wasn't much out there last time...

SterlingM · **Joined:** Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:36 am **Posts:** 13

How much would it cost to have the C-119C shipped to Galloway, Ohio> :lol:

4RG.I.'S · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:35 pm

What if we all pooled together and bought the C-119? :shock:

We could make it the WIX bird... :drink3:

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:55 pm

4RG.I.'S wrote:

What if we all pooled together and bought the C-119? :shock:

We could make it the WIX bird... :drink3:

That would be pretty amazing.

wendovertom · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:08 pm

If the auction site can be trusted, the bid on either C-119 is only up to $1100 USD!! I'm in for the WIX Bird!

Tom P.

sledge39 · **Joined:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:01 pm **Posts:** 262

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...The reason "Tanker 82" is at Fox...Larry Kraus tells the story... (scroll down to the eighth post from the bottom)

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/p ... &start=105

ChrisAldridge · **Joined:** Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:50 am **Posts:** 85

Related question, is their any C-119 survivors built by Kaiser-Frazer?

Chris Brame · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:46 pm

ChrisAldridge wrote:

Related question, is their any C-119 survivors built by Kaiser-Frazer?

Looks like there are maybe four from the initial batch:

Joe Baugher wrote:

51-8098 ... 51-8168
Kaiser-Frazer C-119F-KM Flying Boxcar
c/n 101/171

8106 (c/n 109) converted to C-119G between 1955 and 1957. Seen Dec 1970 at Fort Benning, GA. Transferred to Chinese Nationalist AF sometime after 1970 as 3190. Preserved at Air Force Academy Museum, Guang Shan, Taiwan.

8121 (c/n 124) converted to C-119J in 1955 and to C-119G in 1957. Officially designated C-119J sometime after Jun 1957.
To Italian AF as MM51-8121, code 46-50. In Petrin collection, Villorba, north of Treviso

8128 (c/n 131) converted to C-119J standard in 1955 and to C-119G in 1957. Officially designated C-119J sometime after Jun 1957. To Italian AF in 1964 as MM51-8128. Preserved at Museu Storica Del Aeronautica Militare Italiana, Collezione Petrin, at Treviso

8129 (c/n 132) converted to C-119J standard and 1955 and to C-119G in 1957. Officially designated C-119J sometime after Jun 1957. To MASDC. To civil register as N8504Y, Stebbins Community Association, Stebbins, AK. (ed. note: Deregistered in 2004 - gone now?)

From the second batch, maybe eight:

Joe Baugher wrote:

53-8069 ... 53-8156
Kaiser-Fraser C-119G Flying Boxcar
c/n 172/259

8073 (c/n 176) converted to C-119L. To MASDC as CJ471 Sep 27, 1975. To civil register as N9027K, succession of
owners, eventually to Brooks Fuel, Fairbanks, AK. Reported Feb 2008 to be in storage at Anchorage IAP, AK (ed. note: still there?)

8074 (c/n 177) converted to C-119L. To MASDC as CJ457 Mar 27, 1975. Sold to Air Pro/Western International scrap yard in 1987. Observed in scrap yard Apr 1990 but listed as sold to manager of Flying J Ranch Airport, AZ Mar 13, 1990. Currently derelict at Flying J Ranch near Pima, AZ. (ed. note: I think someone posted a thread about this one with photos?)

8076 (c/n 179) converted to C-119L 1973. To MASDC as CJ456 Jan 1, 1975. To civil register as N8505A Northern Pacific
Transport, Anchorage, AK. Eventually to Hawkins and Powers and stored at Greybull, WY as N8505A

8084 (c/n 187) converted to C-119J, then C-119L. Preserved at Little Rock AFB, Arkansas

8087 (c/n 190) converted to C-119L. Preserved at 82nd Airborne War Memorial Museum, Fort Bragg, NC.

8127 (c/n 230) converted to C-119L. To civil registry as N4999K, then N90269 with Starbird, Inc of Reno, NV

8146 (c/n 249) to UN Aug 1960 for use in Congo as UNO-105. To Italian AF in 1961 as MM53-8146. Preserved at Practica de Mare, Italy, Piana delle Orme Museum, Borgo Faiti

8150 (c/n 253) converted to C-119L. To civil register as N37636, Hawkins and Powers, Greybull, WY. (ed. note: still there?)

Avn-Tech · **Joined:** Fri May 22, 2009 11:00 am **Posts:** 116

Yesterday Air Force pulled the C-119C at Edwards AFB from the Auction listing it as a Historic aircraft.

This was the first C-119 to air drop bridge sections to the soldiers trapped at the Cho son Reservoir. After several more aircraft dropped bridge sections, the soldiers were able to escape.

So, one of the three have been saved.

I also talked to the people at the fire base at Fox Field, who told me that one wing of the C-119 there has a broken wing. Someone else told me, they had heard that it fell off a jack at one time, causing damage to the wing.

Laterrrrrrr
Avn-Tech

Nathan · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:46 pm

4RG.I.'S wrote:

What if we all pooled together and bought the C-119? :shock:

We could make it the WIX bird... :drink3:

Lets do it!!!!!! Who wants to go get it. I'll give some money! Let Scott know. calling Taigh.........

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