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Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:27 am

sdennison wrote:Always appreciate the help. Can you turn me on to your books? When you see so many variations of paint schemes, it's hard to say what's correct so I just do what the owner wants and since we found examples like this, off we go. 8)


Will do. For now here are a few pics I've uploaded:

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F-86A date:1949

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F-86E date: 1952

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F-86F date: 1952

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F-86F date: 1953

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F-86F date: 1968 - noteworthy as this was one of the last F-86Fs refurbed by NAA at Inglewood: it shows that they were still using the darker-coloured chromate green that late.

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F-86F date: 1955

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Canadair Sabre 2 date: 1953 (RAF)

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Canadair Sabre 2 date: 1957 (ANG)

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Canadair Sabre 4 date: 1954 (RAF)

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Canadair Sabre 5 date: May 1960 (Golden Hawks)

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Canadair Sabre 5 date: 1960 (Golden Hawks)

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Canadair Sabre 6 date: 1959 (RCAF Europe)

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Canadair Sabre 6 date: 1962 (Golden Hawks)

Trying to get good colour shots of the interiors are difficult, but the period photos I've uploaded show that the dark colour SEEMS to have been in widespread use. However it's a dark area at the best of times! Conversely I can't see evidence of lighter colours until later in service (late '50s on): silver-painted or light gray then seems to have been most commonplace.

A few of my books are here:

http://www.amazon.com/North-American-Sabre-Crowood-Aviation/dp/1861263589/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1440779101&sr=8-6&keywords=duncan+curtis&pebp=1440779106796&perid=187RGAA2JS62199BMDJH

http://www.amazon.com/American-QF-86E-Aerial-Targets-Fighters/dp/0942612582/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1440779101&sr=8-4&keywords=duncan+curtis&pebp=1440779148039&perid=187RGAA2JS62199BMDJH

http://www.amazon.com/Sabre-Canadair-RAF-Service/dp/0750942363/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1440779101&sr=8-3&keywords=duncan+curtis&pebp=1440779168003&perid=187RGAA2JS62199BMDJH

Hope this helps! Let me know if you need anything else (though it looks like you're doing impressive work thus far).

DC

Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:23 pm

Corsair Div: Corsair aileron hinges, how many parts could there be??? Received paint top coat, fasteners, etc. so when the paint is dry, they all get reassembled and sent to "Woody" to be ready for his magic on the fit. Marc forgot more about wood than most people even know. His great talent and the magic of modern technology will make him the King of Corsair ailerons, you just watch. He does the Howard wings and ailerons now which are very similar. Lime green is primer, green (looks yellow to me...) is the top coat. More to come.

Only way I can keep all those parts under control in my little brain.
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Danglin and dryin
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Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:51 pm

sdennison wrote:With dissimmilar materials (steel hammer and rubber anvil) the aluminum will actually shrink which is what is needed in this case to bring the aluminum dents back to the original surface. Sounds weird, I know but it actually works, as you can see.


I visited Scott this morning and quizzed him on this method of dent repair for some time. He very kindly showed me exactly how he approaches such work - in this case, a rubber sheet over a PVC block, and a very fine detail hammer (1/4" radius ends, roughly) to actually shrink the metal back (it's so easy to stretch metal and bulge it out beyond what is desired - but 'shrinking' it back to size is something I regard as black magic). He recommended checking some of Ron Covell's videos, which I did, but I'd rather see Scott show how he actually accomplishes such work (this is a giant hint/suggestion that he needs to start a Youtube channel or something equivalent).

I may be a bit forthright is saying so, but if anyone fascinated by this thread finds themselves in southeastern Wisconsin, visiting Scott's hangar is must. I feel conflicted every time I drop by - I love learning bits and pieces of his vast metalworking knowledge, but hate stealing precious time away from his attention to projects. Very fortunately, Scott is overly generous with his time and expertise and kindly shares his wisdom - truly, a scholar and a gentleman.

Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:59 pm

:drink3: Thank you for such kind words but there are so many out there who have forgotten more than I'll ever know.

Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:37 pm

Corsair Div.: Lots of painting to be done this week but you can't finish bits without the final coat of paint. At least that means we are checking the "Done" boxes. This week will have all the aileron hardware ready for Marc so as not to hold up any progress on the new ailerons.

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Sabre Div: Same thing, paint must happen before the final assembly can be done. As of today, speed brake systems are all ready to be reassembled complete. Check that box.. Vert is at the paint shop today.

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Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:26 pm

Told you I have some serious painting to get caught up on. Did four colors today with my surgical air brush and small paint gun. Corsair primer green, F86 radome black, F86 gear door yellow, F86 gear door silver... The only tough paint to work with is the Imron yellow as no reducer to thin it out called for. Ton more Corsair stuff ready for paint. Gonna be a busy week. Another F86 gear door to do in house. Corsair finish yellow to apply...yadda yadda yadda :lol:

F86 Gear door link
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F86 LH gear door
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F86 Radome
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Primed Corsair bits
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Remember these?
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Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:25 pm

Today time was spent assembling the refurbished aileron hinges. They were in bad shape as received. Now all fresh and inspected with all new fasteners and nut plates. Whole lot of parts for three hinges per side.

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Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:50 pm

Now your just showing off! Haha, just kidding. Awesome work Scott. I, along with others thoroughly enjoy this thread. Keep it coming. :drink3:

Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:23 pm

More Sabre Stuff, RH main gear door stripping and polishing. Ready for paint and finish.

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Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:13 pm

Done!

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Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:33 pm

My buddy Arnie made up some needed aluminum washers for the hinge bits. These were Chance Vought sourced parts with a proper drawing. So simple, right? So many parts for simple things.

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The large aluminum washer sandwiches wood ribs to the aluminum retainer.
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Needed outboard hinge pieces now complete after trimming, drilling and dimping the cover. Next heat treat, paint and done.
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Ran out of time to mix another batch of primer.
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Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:39 pm

Main gear struts finished. Magnaflux passed. Ready to go back to the Masters of Heritage AeroMain gear struts finished. Magnaflux passed. Ready to go back to the Masters of Heritage Aero

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Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:42 pm

Getting closer to reassembly stage. Man this plane has lot of parts...Heat treating Monday to finish the aileron hinges, then they are checked "done".

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Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:24 pm

Went to Tab Air today to heat treat the new aileron hinge bits. Then little adjustment was required. Primed and tomorrow top coat with color. Then assemble with new hardware and nut plates. DONE! I do like moving things to the "Done" section.

Fresh from the oven...
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A little adjustment needed, next prime...
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Drying in my "paint booth"
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Re: Not sure, anybody interested?

Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:36 pm

Speed brake wells going back together...

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