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RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Thu May 15, 2014 1:38 pm

Our Museum had been working through the details to try to acquire an ex RCAF C-119 in the US we had discovered while watching the various media...but it appears that aircraft may no longer be available.

Does anyone know if there are any remaining in Greybull?

Others that are out there?

Starting the search over so any leads appreciated.

Tom H

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Thu May 15, 2014 1:57 pm

Have you looked over Goodall's survivor list?
http://www.goodall.com.au/warbirds-dire ... rchild.pdf

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Thu May 15, 2014 4:30 pm

I'm no expert, but is this an RCAF paint job?

Image

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Thu May 15, 2014 5:17 pm

Thanks Warbirdnerd...brain stall should have hit it before posting.

Snake45...yes that is a RCAF paint scheme

But it looks from the picture that one has a good home...darnnit.

Tom H

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Thu May 15, 2014 5:23 pm

Tom H wrote:But it looks from the picture that one has a good home...darnnit.

Tom H

It does...and "home" is the right word--its birthplace. :wink:

If you really want an RCAF one, and came up with a non-RCAF one this good or better to swap, they MIGHT be interested. (I'm not speaking for them in any way, of course.)

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Thu May 15, 2014 6:21 pm

I have spoken at length to a Canadian museum regards acquiring a Canadian Boxcar. Good to hear there is now more than a passing interest in getting a couple back to Canada. The examples that spring readily to mind are the Geneseo example and the derelict machine at Battle Mountain in Nevada. There is likely one ex Canadian example at Greybull but the situation seems fairly fluid there.

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Thu May 15, 2014 7:02 pm

David J Burke wrote:I have spoken at length to a Canadian museum regards acquiring a Canadian Boxcar. Good to hear there is now more than a passing interest in getting a couple back to Canada. The examples that spring readily to mind are the Geneseo example and the derelict machine at Battle Mountain in Nevada. There is likely one ex Canadian example at Greybull but the situation seems fairly fluid there.


Thanks David

Yes I know who the other is and they beat me to the first one.

We had to wait until a site was confirmed to be in place darnnit.

Do you have any additional information on the Battle Mountain aircraft? Contact?

Does anyone have contact info for the folks in Greybull?

Thanks again

Tom H

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Thu May 15, 2014 10:03 pm

Probably easier for you to do direct calls because of the time difference ! There is a fire bombing museum at Greybull who should be able to help with contacts .Another machine to keep a close eye on is the 'Flight of the Phoenix' machine which is nominally airworthy and down in Arizona at http://lauridsenaviationmuseum.com/c-11 ... ng-boxcar/. She is ex RCAF.

This is the example at the Greybull museum :http://www.airteamimages.com/fairchild-c-119-flying-boxcar_06_canada---royal-canadian-air-force_162718.html

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Thu May 15, 2014 10:38 pm

I am fairly certain the "museum" in Greybull is now defunct. I know of at least three ex-RCAF C-119s still parked there. One is in stock condition, parked in the north storage area and is owned by Harold Shep(p?)ard, Riverton, Wyoming. He runs a salvage yard.

Of the other two, one was specifically "restored" in RCAF configuration by H&P over 20 years ago, however, the aircraft is just a shell. The cockpit is gutted, the props are welded in place. It just has a fancy paint job. The last airplane is ex-T-136 or 137, with a fairly complete cockpit as I recall. Not sure, but I think these two aircraft are owned by the U.S. Forest Service as part of the Historic Aircraft exchange program back in the late 80's/early 90's where they were traded for C-130A models.

Craig

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Thu May 15, 2014 10:56 pm

I forgot about the C-119 large acreage sprayer, T-03, N3003. This too, I'm fairly certain, is also an ex-RCAF airplane. Last I heard, B&G Industries of Greybull owns the airplane. This 119 is probably the only one out of the other three I mentioned in the previous post that could be the easiest to be made ferriable.

It sat in the north storage area for many years. Last time I saw it, it was parked on the ramp.

The airplane reeks of Malathion. You can smell it from 20 feet away on a calm day. During the summer, the gnats are thick in Greybull. To get away from them, all one needs to do is walk over to that old girl and you're in the clear...

Craig

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Fri May 16, 2014 4:47 am

Perhaps this list is of use?
http://www.oldprops.ukhome.net/C119%20Census.htm

A few months ago I phoned the Greybull airport manager asper info
on the AirNav website and perhaps he can help on the aircraft still at
KGEY.
hth
Rudi

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Fri May 16, 2014 10:38 am

I would like to thank everyone for the information and assistance.

One of the many things that make this forum great.

C-119 is an important bird to us and with recent developments we now have the chance to do something about it!

Per Ardua Ad Astra

Thanks again

Tom H

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Fri May 16, 2014 5:02 pm

Tom H wrote:Our Museum had been working through the details to try to acquire an ex RCAF C-119 in the US we had discovered while watching the various media...but it appears that aircraft may no longer be available.
Tom H

Is the C-119 at Hill AFB the one you were trying to get?
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=52367&hilit=hill#p522127

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Sun May 18, 2014 9:49 am

Yes Chris that was the one we were preparing to go after.

Our error was making sure we had the space to handle it before making the official inquiry.

That old expression "He who hesitates shall lose" comes to mind. Our fault in waiting to have the pieces in place before making the request. Oh well, live and learn.

That said thanks to everyone on this thread I've got a few to chase down.

Thanks again everyone and heres hoping

Tom H

Re: RCAF C-119 Box Car....know of any

Sun May 18, 2014 6:36 pm

If you look under C-119 on this link you will see how the Belgium example was dismantled which might be of help ! http://www.bamf.be/?Aircraft_of_the_Museum
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