the movie Twelve O'Clock High

Pat Carry · **Posted:** Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:38 pm

I just finished watching this movie for probably the 25th time. It was on TCM. Is this the greatest war related aviation movie ever or what!

Malo83 · **Joined:** Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:31 am **Posts:** 309

Great movie, War Lover is another :supz:

AG pilot · **Joined:** Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:13 am **Posts:** 555

Both are excellent!

Jerry O'Neill · **Posted:** Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:51 pm

It's on my top ten favorite films of all time list!!!

Champ driver · **Posted:** Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:16 pm

Overall a great movie, probably pretty realistic too.
Paul Mantz did a great job with the belly landing.

The Inspector · **Posted:** Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:04 pm

To do the inflight shots of Greg Peckory 'flying' the airplane, the studio used a hunk of a B-17 on the soundstage including running the engine. (bet THAT was exciting inside the sound stage :shock:

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It is among the best especially since unlike 'The War Lover' there wasn't anything besides the story with no contrived romantic triangles.

corsair166b · **Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:16 am

That B-17 hulk that they used in the movie and the TV series made its way here to Greeley, CO a long time ago and was a fixture at a bar called 'the State Armory' until it went out of business a number of years ago....a few years ago Bruce Orriss (I think that was his name) got ahold of me and asked for info on how to find the owners of the bar....a deal was reached and the fuselage (basically from the stars and bars on the rear fuselage to the nose) was transported to California, then somehow found its way to the National WWII Museum in New Orleans where other parts of B-17's were added to it to make a complete airframe, and now it hangs from their ceiling....a far better fate than hanging from a smokey old bar forever and ever. Now if they'd just fix the paint scheme on their Corsair hanging next to it I'd be a happy camper!

SaxMan · **Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:45 am

My father told me that they used to show this movie at management seminars. I don't know if they still do, but it really does have a lot of management tips. For that matter, most biographies of squadron and group leaders' management techniques do translate into the business world.

TAdan · **Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:13 am

corsair166b wrote:

That B-17 hulk that they used in the movie and the TV series made its way here to Greeley, CO a long time ago and was a fixture at a bar called 'the State Armory' until it went out of business a number of years ago....a few years ago Bruce Orriss (I think that was his name) got ahold of me and asked for info on how to find the owners of the bar....a deal was reached and the fuselage (basically from the stars and bars on the rear fuselage to the nose) was transported to California, then somehow found its way to the National WWII Museum in New Orleans where other parts of B-17's were added to it to make a complete airframe, and now it hangs from their ceiling....a far better fate than hanging from a smokey old bar forever and ever. Now if they'd just fix the paint scheme on their Corsair hanging next to it I'd be a happy camper!

The Greeley Colorado fuselage is now in possession of the Liberty Foundation and will be integrated into one of their rebuilds. The B-17E hanging up in New Orleans is "Our Gal Sal" recovered from Greenland and restored in Ohio.

Check out the Sept. and May 13 updates on Aerovintage. http://www.aerovintage.com/b17news13.htm

CoastieJohn · **Joined:** Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:37 pm **Posts:** 1380

SaxMan wrote:

My father told me that they used to show this movie at management seminars. I don't know if they still do, but it really does have a lot of management tips. For that matter, most biographies of squadron and group leaders' management techniques do translate into the business world.

Yes....it is used for leadership and management classes. I seen it a couple of times in the classes I went to. I think the Cain Mutiny may have been one a L &M movie too.

corsair166b · **Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:21 pm

Thanks for the update on the Greeley B-17 now with the Liberty Belle folks...I had been told that the B-17 in the National WWII museum was her no doubt....but I also see that apparently that deal fell through....glad to hear she might be a flyer in the future!!

Malo83 · **Joined:** Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:31 am **Posts:** 309

SaxMan wrote:

My father told me that they used to show this movie at management seminars. I don't know if they still do, but it really does have a lot of management tips. For that matter, most biographies of squadron and group leaders' management techniques do translate into the business world.

The NAVY used it when I went thru their Leadership and Management classes back in San Diego

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:18 pm

I have an original movie poster from "the war lover"..... mcqueen played the perfect arrogant, cocky, wreckless character of rickson. 14 x 11 inches, color, a minor tatter, would look great framed & matted. $45.00 bucks + postage if interested.

JohnB · **Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:58 pm

SaxMan wrote:

My father told me that they used to show this movie at management seminars. I don't know if they still do, but it really does have a lot of management tips. For that matter, most biographies of squadron and group leaders' management techniques do translate into the business world.

They showed it to us in Air Force Officer Training School.

The Inspector · **Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:06 pm

The Bedford Incident' (one of my guilty favorites) is shown in 10 minute chunks, to psychiatry and mental health students. The subtle psych knife fight between Poitier and Widmark is classic

Poitier working Widmark like a guy prying at an oysters shell with a nail file is genius acting from both.

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