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F-84- The ad states this is one of 2 privately owned F-84s, does the Soplata Family have one or where is the other?
http://www.platinumfighters.com/invento ... erjet/c42k
2 F9F projects:
http://www.platinumfighters.com/invento ... nther/c30g

Mid Atlantic Air Museum has a very early F-84 (P-84?). I believe they own it, as opposed to being a NMUSAF loan. It is static, and I haven't heard of any plans of restoring it to fly.

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I'm not buying the "only 2 privately owned" F84 part as a member of our museum privately owns one, so that would make three right there...

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Tyler Pinkerton
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Aircraft: C47B, C-123K, Fairchild F-24, Funk Model B, L-21B, T-28B, T-34B
Static: F-4C Phantom II, F-15A, T-3 Provost

Planes of Fame and Yanks both own at least one.

Wonder if they meant one of two F-84Gs in private hands?

IMHO, America's early jet heritage (other than the F-86 and T-33) is woefully neglected. I imagine parts must be a bear to find, operating expenses through the roof, and likely an unsympathetic FAA when it comes to getting approval for them to fly.

Still, with the advent of CAD technology and 3D printers, some of the parts issues could begin to be addressed.

AWESOME!! Get those early jets flying! From the face value of the listing it sounds like the Thunderjets are pretty complete and from what I have heard Platinum has never given a reason to think that the face value of the statement should be questioned. Also, the statement "two in private hands" does not stand alone - you need to read further "currently in private hands and is capable of be in restored to flying condition." I might be wrong (correct me please) but the aforementioned jets won't ever been flown.

Tom P.

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Tyler Pinkerton
Active Member of Air Heritage Inc. of Beaver Falls, PA.
Aircraft: C47B, C-123K, Fairchild F-24, Funk Model B, L-21B, T-28B, T-34B
Static: F-4C Phantom II, F-15A, T-3 Provost

The ad also says that



I'd suspect from Europe, but does anyone know from where (the 250 Danish examples are well accounted for and it's not one of those)?

Not many -G's left in Europe and most were under bought with US aid, making them still US property. Still a fair number of -F's around, but this G is a rare beast!

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Magister Aviation
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Just found out myself: It's from the former Yugoslovia.

Cool stuff! I'm a big fan of the early jets. As SaxMan stated above, they are certainly under-represented. T-33s and Sabres are neato (we have one of each in the VFM hangar right now!) but there are a lot of other types that you just don't see much of these days. I hope all three of our subject jets find homes with someone who has the motivation and the financial means to get them flying.

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Dean Hemphill, K5DH
Port Charlotte, Florida

I wonder if they mean privately owned and registered. If so, there are two, this one and its sibling that went to a rather large Vulcan like collection nearby...

I always thought the Mid Atlantic F-84 was registered, but apparently not. I'm not sure the Soplata collection had an early straight wing F-84. The F-84F went to the MAPS Museum a few years ago.

Jim

I think the MAAM Thunderjet is a P-84B. I emailed the museum once to see if it had ever flown with my Guard unit, but it has a history at Dow AFB.

I agree with everyone here, I would love to see more vintage jets in the air.....F-84s, F9Fs, F-89s, etc....


Chappie

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Anyone know the identities of the two Panthers that are part of that same "package" deal? The ad says that they are a F9F-4 and a F9F-5 with 2x Allison J33 turbojet engines (supposedly rated at 6,100 lbs of thrust but when they were installed in F9F-3 Panthers, they were rated at only 4,600 lbs.)

And the F9F-3 was the only version powered by the J33 as far as I remember - so those engines might not be any good for those two airframes in particular. The F9F-2 had the 5,000 lb. Pratt J42 and the F9F-5 had the Pratt J48 rated at 6,250 lbs. I believe that the F9F-4 was a limited production variant that was rolled into the later F9F-5 contracts.

Platinum also used a photo of F9F-2 Panther, Bu. 123072, in flight for their first photo. Surely they're not claiming that's one of the two F9F airframes for sale in their "package" - that particular Panther, originally restored for Bill Pryor and Jack Levine by Harry Drummond and Dennis Gile between 1978 and 1983, it was later owned - and crashed - by Art Wolk.

Ref. this thread from 2010 http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36822

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"10534" on the F-84G is just its Yugoslav s/n; according to Baugher it's actually 52-8365.

That one's P-84B 46-666; looks like there are four or five B models left (45-59504 at Cradle of Aviation, 45-59554 at Pima, 45-59556 at POF Valle and 46-666 are on the Registry; Baugher lists 46-600 at NY ANG, Syracuse/Hancock as of 2002 - does it still exist?)

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