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Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:09 pm
You got that right!
Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:39 pm
whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:Is the Dc-3 a flyer? If it is, are they hauling cargo or passangers?
It had been but I'm not sure if it currently is, back in October 2010 when we were there, they taxiied it over. It was not airworthy then because of an accident it had while tied down.
They used a concrete block to tie down the tail. However, it came free from the block or the wings came free. Either way, the plane was able to be moved by the wind and the tail was swung into the block causing some pretty heavy damage to the fuselage and tail wheel.
I remember the owner said they put a temporary patch on it (somewhere) that allowed them to taxi it or tow it.
It is configured in an all passenger layout however. I remember sitting in it for a while, though I don't think I took any pictures of it.
Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:45 pm
flightsimer wrote:whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:Is the Dc-3 a flyer? If it is, are they hauling cargo or passangers?
It had been but I'm not sure if it currently is, back in October 2010 when we were there, they taxiied it over. It was not airworthy then because of an accident it had while tied down.
They used a concrete block to tie down the tail. However, it came free from the block or the wings came free. Either way, the plane was able to be moved by the wind and the tail was swung into the block causing some pretty heavy damage to the fuselage and tail wheel.
I remember the owner said they put a temporary patch on it (somewhere) that allowed them to taxi it or tow it.
It is configured in an all passenger layout however. I remember sitting in it for a while, though I don't think I took any pictures of it.
Ouch! That stinks that happened. Do you know of any plans to restore it to flying status? Or does the new owner have any different plans?
Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:29 pm
whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:flightsimer wrote:whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:Is the Dc-3 a flyer? If it is, are they hauling cargo or passangers?
It had been but I'm not sure if it currently is, back in October 2010 when we were there, they taxiied it over. It was not airworthy then because of an accident it had while tied down.
They used a concrete block to tie down the tail. However, it came free from the block or the wings came free. Either way, the plane was able to be moved by the wind and the tail was swung into the block causing some pretty heavy damage to the fuselage and tail wheel.
I remember the owner said they put a temporary patch on it (somewhere) that allowed them to taxi it or tow it.
It is configured in an all passenger layout however. I remember sitting in it for a while, though I don't think I took any pictures of it.
Ouch! That stinks that happened. Do you know of any plans to restore it to flying status? Or does the new owner have any different plans?
They said it was going to be fixed, I just don't know if has been yet. Prior to that it was actively flying. He said it was really just a toy for him and the other owners to fly around in.
Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:53 pm
It looked like someone may have been working on it, as there were ladders nearby. I really didn't see any major damage on the plane. It just looked like a well-worn DC-3 to me. I didn't get that close of a look at the tail, though.
Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:47 am
SaxMan wrote:It looked like someone may have been working on it, as there were ladders nearby. I really didn't see any major damage on the plane. It just looked like a well-worn DC-3 to me. I didn't get that close of a look at the tail, though.
The damage was done just forward of the left horizontal
Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:55 pm
Checking out their website, the museum does have an unrestored Fairchild 24. I saw it in the hangar, but did not recognize it as such.
As I had previously thought, the museum did own two out of the three PT-19s and they are fliers.
Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:11 pm
An update today on the Museum's web site regarding the effort to bring the C-123 Provider from Fort Lauderdale, FL to the museum.
There was a successful run of both engines on November 6.
http://www.hagerstownaviationmuseum.org/home.html
Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:58 pm
The HAM also received a beautiful Fairchild 24 as a donation this past September. That's very cool about the C-123.
I did take a closer look at the C-47 and saw the damaged area. Work has been done around the area, but it appears to still be a work "in progress"
Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:17 am
The Hagerstown folks have done a tremendous amount of work on the C-123 so that it can be ferried back. Air Heritage Inc. will be doing the ferry itself. Our President and C-123 commander, Bill Schillig, flew down there to inspect it along with our 123 Crew Chief, Bob Gbur. I would assume that it was them who were the ones running it. The only thing I'm not sure is if the right seat person was from HAM or if it was someone from here as I only know of Bill and Bob heading south.
Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:17 pm
Great to see the former RCAF C119G my dad was a flight engineer on them back in the 50's. In 1956 they went to the Suez with them operating out of Naples in support of the first UN peace mission.
He let me do a run up on one back in the 60's something I'll never forget.
Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:18 pm
flightsimer wrote:The Hagerstown folks have done a tremendous amount of work on the C-123 so that it can be ferried back. Air Heritage Inc. will be doing the ferry itself. Our President and C-123 commander, Bill Schillig, flew down there to inspect it along with our 123 Crew Chief, Bob Gbur. I would assume that it was them who were the ones running it. The only thing I'm not sure is if the right seat person was from HAM or if it was someone from here as I only know of Bill and Bob heading south.
That's good news for the HAM to have an experienced crew do the ferry flight. I don't think anyone flies their C-123 more than your group. I remember seeing her at Frederick, MD back in the 90s. My main recollection was how much smoke the engines kicked up on start up!
Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:37 pm
While on course with the USAF my father talked of watching the trials of the XG 20 glider which was the basis of the C123.
Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:09 pm
Recent TV news segment on the C-123:
http://www.your4state.com/story/c-123-a ... VHBZjN8AegHope we can get a heads up on the ferry flight and homecoming ceremony for the C-123. Would love to be there if possible like I was for the C-119 arrival a few years back.
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