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Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:31 pm

Wow. What an amazing find.

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:39 pm

bigapplebird wrote:Wow. What an amazing find.


Great Work Salerno 43, as usual.

I am surprised no one flamed him for using the word "crash" or for not putting a date in his thread title. Some get upset about such small things.

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:58 pm

I am surprised no one flamed him for using the word "crash" or for not putting a date in his thread title. Some get upset about such small things.[/quote]



Up until now you're the only one who has mentioned it. Couldn't leave it alone.

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:27 pm

I really appreciate your thorough documentation of this crash site. Well done!
(Wonder how a shaving cream tube labeled in Spanish got into one of our planes?)

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:33 pm

shrike wrote:
Forgotten Field wrote:The number 8639 in the first round of photos is the rear plate trigger mechanism for a .50 Caliber MG.


The backplate assembly shown is from a flexible gun, with traces of the spade grips still attached.


Aircraft guns didn't use spade grips mounted on the rear plate. The rear plates were the same between the aircraft and ground guns only the spade grip brackets (the u-shaped parts) were not installed.

http://browningmgs.com/AirGunnery/01_50cal.htm

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:41 pm

Thank you for taking the time to post this. I think this is the block that holds the trailing antenna pipe just before it exits the fuselage in the wooden ball:

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Is this pipe hollow? If so it may be the top of the stand pipe used to fill hydraulic fluid into the control unit for the Bell M7 tailgun. If this is the correct part there would be a "box" with four screw holes just below the break if the part was intact.

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In the post with numbered pics, #10/11 looks like the cap for the fuel tank, which is on the top of each wing between the engine and fuselage.

#18 may be the fuel transfer switch

#22 looks like a bomb bay shackle from the bay that would hold the bomb releases

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:45 pm

Part 13 is the surround from an artificial horizon an 25 the pilot's control yoke.

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:40 pm

Since you found dog tags and according to your research the crew members were never recovered, Have you contacted the American Embassy? They might have the MIA Joint Task Force recovery team investigate the site.

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:34 am

According to their website, JPAC has toll free numbers to call as well as interpreters standing by to assist in gathering information on any missing Americans:

http://www.jpac.pacom.mil/index.php?pag ... =100&ind=5

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:33 am

Thanks. We are the referrent for researches of MIA USA soldiers in south Italy for DPMO like you can see here: http://www.1943salerno.it/ritrovamenti/ ... nders.html

http://www.1943salerno.it/ritrovamenti/62-il-dipartimento-della-difesa-degli-usa-e-i-salerno-1943-air-finders.html

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:01 pm

The aircrew has already been accounted for.

The B-25 is associated with MACR 16514. It was carrying seven crewmembers,
not five as mentioned in the article. Four died in the crash and three
bailed out. The four casualties were subsequently recovered and buried as a
group in the Zachary Taylor National Cemetery in Louisville, KY.

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:42 pm

This is not correct information. Crew was six. Nobody bailed out. 1 deceased was identified and buried in a single grave, other five bodies was not identified and buried in a common grave.

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:56 am

Are we talking about the same MACR? I got that info from my POC at JPAC. I'll ask again.

Re: From a USA B-25 crash site

Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:03 pm

CoastieJohn wrote:Are we talking about the same MACR? I got that info from my POC at JPAC. I'll ask again.


Please see previous page of this post:

Extracts from Missing Air Crew Report # 2618:
A/C No. 41-29775 ((MACR-2618 - crashed - missing)
P DeMay, Kenneth C., Capt - MIA, KNB
E Cooper, Raymond C., S/Sgt - MIA, KNB
PAX Allender, Darrel W., Cpl - MIA, KNB
PAX Kaiser, Jacob (NMI), Jr., Sgt - MIA, KNB
PAX Lee, James P., Cpl - MIA, KNB
PAX Pearson, Stanley O., Sgt - MIA, KNB
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