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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 10:58 am 
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I guess TIGAR's tactic is to make ridiculous claims, get press, get donations from people who don't recall the last time the mystery was claimed to have been solved by the same people, then slink away while folks forget, then after a while repeat the process to infinity.


Amelia’s fame is like a faucet I can turn on and off with a press release

I just wish the press would stop giving him traction but since we surely must have the most stupid media on the planet I'm sure there is no hope of that.

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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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Because SHE'S a WOMAN who had to endure a round the world trip with a drunken machismo for a navigator, and it's the least they could do for her suffering.....


Now...now...He always spoke well of you. :wink: Besides...isn't she the one who picked him. If so, seems like a self inflicted wound to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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Phew!!! Well that was a close call. And here I was thinking this thread had nothing to do with warbirds or the WIX Hangar. :axe:

The Lockheed 10E actually had some military efforts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_10E

Still trying to find out if Earhart ever officially served in the armed forces. Any armed forces allied or axis :wink:

As for people who choose to spend their money any way they wish? Let's just say I've seen my share of wealthy waste of money and time on far worse things than to continue to search for a long deceased aviator. If there are folks who can afford it and want to afford it for reasons of their own, more power to them.

And once again I'd like to remind those who care, the media in today's society is, and in all likelihood will forever be, far more concerned about generating high ratings and income than substance. After all the media is just as much a 'business' as anything else. Until the media generates a form of 'Hippocratical Oath' to report good, honest facts and be held with some form of accountability (the likes of what doctors are supposed to adhere to) I'd not hold too much faith in some of the practices of the media anytime soon. For the most part the media as a whole does a reasonable job IMHO, but it's up to us to decide what we want to believe or not. Good luck with any reform on the part of media coverage anytime soon.

As for this 'Earhart thing' well I won't be surprised if someday someone finds actual concrete evidence, (or what they claim to be) of which the euforia will most likely last about a day, then what? continue the search for bigfoot?

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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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I am simply amazed at the way the media has run with this story. They have all but guaranteed that the Earhart mystery is finally solved. Over what? Some strange pixels on a sonar search?

But, let's play Devil's Advocate...what if this was part of the Electra? It won't bring Earhart back to life, it certainly can't take to the skies again. All it will be is some bent up piece of metal that will be put on display somewhere. All those millions of dollars for a single bent up piece of metal? Seems a bit silly to me.


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But, let's play Devil's Advocate...what if this was part of the Electra? It won't bring Earhart back to life, it certainly can't take to the skies again. All it will be is some bent up piece of metal that will be put on display somewhere. All those millions of dollars for a single bent up piece of metal? Seems a bit silly to me.



I'd like to see the mystery "solved"...but you're basically correct.
For the last 75 years we've (Those excluding the conspiracy buffs) figured she was somewhere at the bottom of the Pacific.
IF this trip is successful, we'll KNOW what part of the Pacific she's been in all these years.

Nothing more.

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Would like to see the same effort to find Flight 19

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Freeman Field Recovery team on Facebook believes it is part of the smokestack off of the Norwich City.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

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At the risk of angering fans of TIGHAR and their crusade to find Amelia Earhart, we tend to believe on our team that they may be grasping at straws and forcing the evidence fit their hypothesis. It is understandable and easy to fall into that trap. The latest hype from the group is a sonar anomaly that they claim "may be" from Earhart and Noonan's Electra. We offer up an alternate hypothesis. We believe that it may be debris from the SS. Norwich City, which ran aground on Gardner Island years before the famous flight and which broke apart only a couple of hundred yards away from this new sonar anomaly.


You know, if the Norwich city ran aground a few years before Earhart got there, the first place I would go (if I were Earhart) would be to go to the ship for a place to sleep....

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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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I have located and recovered a number of wrecks, many for free. In fact, I was one of the first to dig at Freeman Field. I agree with them on this!

For TEN MILLION US DOLLARS I will tell the world where she is..............in the Pacific Ocean.


Now, please pay me!

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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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I have located and recovered a number of wrecks, many for free. In fact, I was one of the first to dig at Freeman Field. I agree with them on this!

For TEN MILLION US DOLLARS I will tell the world where she is..............in the Pacific Ocean.


Now, please pay me!

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Check's in the mail. :P

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continue the search for bigfoot?


I thought he was found already. I seen video. :lol: How about looking for Jimmy Hoffa?

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 Post subject: Re: Amelia Earhart Redux
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As i recall from a previous looky loo they had sonar returns of what they thought could be an aircraft wing or part of one showing discernable internal rib structure. I looked at it and thought "that's a piece of ships hull". They dove on it and it was a course a piece of the Norwich.

Has anyone ever seen a sonar signature of an aircraft wreck that showed internal features like wing ribs? Now it looks like they are willing to claim any piece of wreckage from the Norwich could be the electra so I can imagine many future expeditions to check out all the junk in the area.

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As far as internal structure (X-Ray vision) viewed by side-scan.....the answer is yes. If you turn up the gain, you can see through the lighter aluminum skin as if it were a fabric covered plane. In the case of an Electra underwater for so many years, I would doubt much skin would remain unless it were heavily encrusted. Now if they don't really know what they are looking at or for, anything "could" be part of a twin Lockheed. Any number of salt water wrecks have become coral reefs and have already disappeared from today's civilian technology.

Not that they would really care if they didn't find it, they would just get some more money and go on another holiday.

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of course the image is as fuzzy as a peach, just like ufo pics. with tighar it's always the money & the money and the money.

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