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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:27 pm 
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Found a link to photos of this museum in Germany with a bunch of old derelict MiGs and what may be an F-104 on display:

http://www.myheimat.de/bad-oeynhausen/f ... 78798.html

One of the comments on the board where I found the link was interesting:
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The museum is in a real bad condition, several Soviet military planes, helicopters, tanks and trucks as well as smaller Wehrmacht tanks are rusting in the open air (according to the site I linked), the most rare exponats are a North American P-47 Thunderbolt and a Junkers Ju-88 found in a lake in the Netherlands.

So, can anyone verify this?

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It's a collection of wreckage, not a complete airframe.

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I didn't see a p-47 or ju88 I saw mug 21's a 23 and a l29. What pic is the 47 and 88 in?


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They aren't in the photos; just referred to by the person who made the comment. Just hoping someone has seen or can verify ID on the remains (which hopefully are inside the building).

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wow that thing is torn to bits sure hope the pilot bailed out.


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Yes, but we have all seen planes in worse condition than this arise from the ashes; and piles of money :wink:

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Unfortunately, the pilot did not bail out.
That's Frank D. Gallion's P-47D, 334th FS, 4th FG. He crashed on november 3d 1943 in the IJsselmeer (body of water in the center of the Netherlands), just a few 100 yards off the coast. The plane was raised from the water on Feb. 11, 1995, but broke into pieces during the operation.
Here is a nice site (to train your Dutch - google translate may be a gift!) http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/top/v/p-47D.htm


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Not too much worse than some of the Thunderbolts WestPac has to restore.


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Any photos of the Ju88?


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acht da lieber!! a german walter soplata?? :wink:..... that museum is definetely in a residential neighborhood!!

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Not too much worse than some of the Thunderbolts WestPac has to restore.


The owner of one of those told me that his will eventually be built as a flier.
I wish they would start; I'm getting older fast, and I would love to see another flying P-47 added to the way-too-short list of flying 'Bolts before I'm gone...........

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