C-130 with a Mig kill?

12XU2A3X3 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:13 pm

yeah, chain kill is detailed in "flying through midnight"

sandiego89 · **Joined:** Mon May 21, 2012 12:28 pm **Posts:** 1199

shrike wrote:

Noha307 wrote:

Did the enemy have any twin rotor helos back then?

Almost all of Kamov's stuff has been twin rotor since 1947.
Granted the rotors are stacked, but there are two of them.

"Flying Through Midnight" indicated it was a tandem rotor type, like Chinook/Belvedere/Sea Knight, but never indicated the exact type. When I read the book I had my doubts as I could not think of a Warsaw Pact type that met that description, so I researched it and came up with the Yakolev Yak-24 "Horse". Had never heard of it before, but it did indeed exist. So there was a Russian designed tandem that was in limited service that fits the time frame. A quick google search does not specificially mention that the Yak-24 served in SE asia under export or with Russian "advisors", but the Yak-24 seems to be the only possibility for a Russian bulit bird.

CoastieJohn · **Joined:** Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:37 pm **Posts:** 1380

Think out of the box on the chain idea......

I've been there for HU-25 and Herc aerial drops. If I was going to use some chains, I would attach a long drop line or drop cable to the chains to act as a streamer and to provide larger entanglment opportunity to enter the rotor system of a helo. The line or cable, if done right, will fall across the helo and hopefully get entangled in the MRH or TRH.

Ken · **Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:50 am

Flying Through Midnight was one of the worst aviation books I've ever read. I was a career airlift pilot and I found it extremely hard to believe much of what I read - even the supposed interphone dialogue between crew while in flight came across as unauthentic. After seeing this thread resurrected, I read a number of the reviews on Amazon, including guys who claim to have been in the author's C-123 unit. All say it was bunk.

As for the chain drop or the fuel dump, I could spend an hour typing a response about airdrop ballistics and the vapor patterns made during fuel dumping and the difficulties in predicting exactly where the wind & wake will take them but I won't. A falling chain would take out a following aircraft, but opening the door, deciding when to release the chain, and having another airplane at the right place and speed to actually be hit by that chain are light years apart.

There are so many historically accurate books out there, don't waste your time on this one.

Ken

12XU2A3X3 · **Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:15 am

Ken wrote:

Flying Through Midnight was one of the worst aviation books I've ever read. I was a career airlift pilot and I found it extremely hard to believe much of what I read - even the supposed interphone dialogue between crew while in flight came across as unauthentic. After seeing this thread resurrected, I read a number of the reviews on Amazon, including guys who claim to have been in the author's C-123 unit. All say it was bunk.

As for the chain drop or the fuel dump, I could spend an hour typing a response about airdrop ballistics and the vapor patterns made during fuel dumping and the difficulties in predicting exactly where the wind & wake will take them but I won't. A falling chain would take out a following aircraft, but opening the door, deciding when to release the chain, and having another airplane at the right place and speed to actually be hit by that chain are light years apart.

There are so many historically accurate books out there, don't waste your time on this one.

Ken

thank you sir! i only wish i hadn't lent it to so many people.

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