F4U FAH 609 Buno 124715 deteriorating!

[jack973]

51fixer

the "plentiful" parts are just available in USA but remeber that change of money cost them 20 times more for them, they pay for every dollar 20 lemps. so, a bit of higher for them, besides that there you won´t find especialist in that kind of mainteinance like happen in USA.
the Honduran Air Force keep the plane outside 25 years. why doesn´t he write them complaining about it??? because he doesn´t have the guts to do it!!! how much do think cost a hangar to have the plane inside??? the number you get multuply it for 20. then, what ideas you can have to get the capital for that?? they don´t have sponsors or government support, everything lies in the public that visit them.
just saying: "i want the plane inside, i want the plane covered, take car of it" is not enough. it much better to say: well, here i am, what do you need the help you get it" that´s what all the proyects need, not just critics that doesn´t help like zorro.

i´ve got this picture of a historical plane for honduras, place OUTSIDE in a museum in USA.

[jack973]

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[zorro7]

J973:

In brief, plz explain to the warbird audience who had the bright idea to take FAH 609 out of its hangar and place it in outside storage "in the weeds" for the last 3 years?? Photo via pista01.com!

[zorro7]

p.s

Will a F4U fixer plz place a picture and dimensions of a tow bar use for F4U towing ops??

Tks in advance

[jack973]

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[Cherrybomber13]

At the rate this thread is degrading I am sure it will be locked before long.

I exchanged several emails with the crew down at the museum as we offered to help make repairs and offer some preservation help.
The museum is in the same boat every other aviation museum is in. They lack funding. In their own words;

The second stage will Include historical information of the Honduras Air Force and house the F4U-5 Corsair; the third stage will have historical information of Honduras commercial aviation; the fourth will be our admin offices with a conference room; and finally, a big hangar to put most of our aircraft under shelter...

Of course, this will take lots of time since our country lacks the financing to do this quickly, and, of course, we will accept any help we can receive!

609 is deteriorated, the elevators were damaged when the plane was turned over to them from the Honduran Air Force. They have acquired a canopy and fabric etc according my conversation. They have plans to do repairs but they also realized that other repairs due to corrosion need to be addressed and it needs to be in a stable environment before they start restorations. That's their prerogative.

I think a few of you guys out here forget that we are the fanboys. We go to Pensacola, Wright Paterson, Hendon, Chino etc with our cameras, and get lost for days. We argue over wheel well colors on P-51's and how we don't approve of some guys 40k paint job we didn't pay for.The average Joe walks through downtown DC, sees the Wright Flier, Spirit of St Louis, a space ship and hes all good for the rest of his life.

Trying to get donations, especially this day in age, is a full time job. The big grants have dried up. Lets not even get into flying, try filling up a DC-3's tanks, so much for that X-mas bonus. The guys in Honduras want 609 on display properly. Donate to them. Oh that's right they are in a foreign country, no tax write-off. How many big warbird operators are their in Central America? Exactly.

If anyone out here in Wix land wants to help, I would suggest that you write Ms. Lisa Kubiske, the US Ambassador to Honduras.

Suggesting that with all the surplus that the US has, I am sure as a sign of good will and compassion to the Honduran people, understanding that their history deserves every effort to be preserved, that we donate a large steel building to the museum to help protect their most famous fighter, an American build Chance Vought Corsair, of which there are few surviving in Central America.
An organised letter writing campaign could make this happen.

The Connecticut Air and Space Center will gladly put up at least 3 people with construction backgrounds to travel to Honduras and work side by side with the people of Honduras to help protect their heritage. I am sure that a few other museums or groups would consider the same offer in a MAC flight C-130 or 17 or commercial airline tickets were provided.

Someone will need to coordinate a concrete contractor to pour a slab and were all set. Yep it is just that easy.

I need a months notice so I can get a baby sitter, but i'm ready to go and roll up my sleeves.

Sea parte de la solución y no del problema ...

Respectfully and IBTL,

[jack973]

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[Cherrybomber13]

Jesus Christ in a Curtiss Jenny...

I would like to take a second to apologize for my joking comment about the Football War. The events that lead to the 100 Hour war were brewing for months and were regarding borders and human rights. I was not aware that it would seriously offend anyone and I sincerely don't try to do that as a manner of course.

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[zorro7]

J973:

On the contrary & before you get off the tangent, FAH 609 was doing just fine as of c. 2008 while inside storage at the previous hangar. I have several shots of its active service with FAH and it is never shown/displayed in such state of decay as in 2012!!



CB13: Great inputs! A pre-fabricated steel bldg can be easily flown to Palmerola via C-17/C-130s. The Red Horse folks I"m sure will be glad to do the rest. I'm willing to pay for the cement myself & roll-up my sleeves with the working crew. I'll work on the US Ambassador
letter this week end.

In the meantime, while all these diplomatic moves take place how about FMAH moving FAH 609 700 ft fwd to its previous hangar to show that you are willing to protect & later restore the magnificent flying machine??

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[Wildchild]

Jesus Christ in a Curtiss Jenny... No wonder you all had a war down there over a Football Game.

Hahahahahaha next football game:

[zorro7]

J973!

Morning!

I'll make things easier for you so the warbird audience can see that there is plenty of space for FAH 609 to be placed back under shelter in this May 2012.

You have some 24 HRs to move it back and collect the $500 green-ones!! The offer still stands. Not bad money if you ask me. Suave!!




p.s BTW that P-17 was never a FAH aircraft is was a civilian cropduster sometime ago!!

[Scott Rose]

This thread was rightfully locked by one of the mods. I have gone through and removed posts containing rule violations and will be issuing warnings in a moment. Please behave your selves and follow the rules and the thread will remain open. If not it will be removed in it's entirety. Thank you for your cooperation.

[zorro7]

FAH 609 Folks:

On a lighter note, it looks now... that some type of maintenance is being done to the canopy area. Photo pista01.com





p.s We are still looking at our diplomatic channels for other options.