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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:22 pm 
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The NBC TV show "Pan Am" just called and asked if I could find for them a flying 707--by the end of next week, believe it or not, that's how television works...--that could be quickly repainted in PAA colors and be used to film a show that involves it flying into Port au Prince. They'll find an airfield somewhere probably on the East Coast to stand in for PAP, but they want the airplane at FRG, on Long Island, by the end of next week.

No, they can't use Travolta's, they've already looked into that. His is too highly modified to stand in for a 1960s airliner.

And yes, I know there's probably no such thing as an FAA-legal 707.

I need a contact name and information, not just advice to "try Miami." Any ideas?


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Your job's problems sound a whole lot more interesting than my jobs problems.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:26 pm 
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Is there even a 707 flying in the US now?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:44 pm 
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I think the only commercial 707s left in the USA belong to Omega Air Refueling. http://www.omegaairrefueling.com

They might be down to just 1 707 after the other caught fire on take-off. Not sure if it would be useful for filming a TV show. http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-j ... 6868.story


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Like others have said, I believe the only flying 707s in CONUS are heavily modified ones like the Omega Air Tankers and there was at least one other that was based at PHX and used for testing (not sure if even that is still there, but it was deinitely not suitable to stand in as an airliner).

Best bet is overseas....Africa or India.


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I don't know how helpful-but isn't Quantas flying one in Australia? Is it the wrong model?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:35 pm 
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Iranian Airlines has one.

Boeing 707-3J9C

That and Omega Air's 707-330C

are all I can come up with

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A DC-8 might be easier to find. Pan Am operated them too, of course.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:01 pm 
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V Saini wrote:
I think the only commercial 707s left in the USA belong to Omega Air Refueling. http://www.omegaairrefueling.com

They might be down to just 1 707 after the other caught fire on take-off. Not sure if it would be useful for filming a TV show. http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-j ... 6868.story

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This could be toughy finding one Stephan. Maybe producers have been spoiled into thinking that everyone is out there to do only what they personally want, instantly. These guys aren't brain surgeons, but they are go-getters and so are the people they have around them. Original operational 707s are probably about as common now as original operational Nieuport 17s. The nearest passenger 707 probably belongs to Travolta.
The wonders of CGI are beckoning to them. Either way, its weeks before anything happens. To understand this better I guess requires a brain surgeon. :lol:


Nice to see the world of film and television are still completely out of touch with reality :lol:

Travolta's one is their only option I would think.... or CGI.

What's the status on Lowa Limited's 707-330B N88ZL which IIRC, was still in PAX configuration 3-4 years ago....??


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:41 pm 
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I am not a 707 Expert, but came about this list:

Civil Boeing 707 Currently In Service
-3J9C 20832 EP-AJD Meraj Air VIP; ex Iran Air Force 1002, c/n not confirmed
-386C 21396 EP-AJE Meraj Air VIP; ex Iran Air Force 1001
-3J9C 20830 EP-SHG Saha Air Pax, still in service 7/2011
-3J9C 21125 EP-SHV Saha Air Pax, still in service 7/2011
-338C 19623 N623RH Omega Air delivered 6/11; ex RAAF A20-623
-138B 18740 N707JT John Travolta VIP, Qantas colours
-368C 21368 N707MQ Omega Air Omega Tanker, seen back in service SAT 4.1.09
-328C 19522 N707SE Star Dynamics Aviation ex South African Air Force 1415
-330B 18928 N88ZL Principal Air VIP-Stage 3 Hushkits, back in service 23.1.06, damaged Hamilton, Ontario 21.1.06
-3K1C 20803 TT-DAX Mid Express Tchad Cargo, ex S2-ADU, YR-ABA
-3L6B 21049 TZ-TAC Tombouctou Aviation VIP - Stage 3 Hushkits, back in service 6/11

Civil Boeing 707 Currently Stored
-351C 18747 3C-JZW Grecoair / David Tokoph Cargo, stored Pietersburg; ex Seagreen N21AZ
-323C 18689 3D-ALJ Interflight seen parked Kano 16.7.05; possibly stored; ex Sky Air EL-ALI, EL-JNS
-379C 19821 4L-GAS ??? Cargo, stored at Fujairah
-3L5C 21228 5A-DAK Libyan Arab VIP, seen at TIP presumably stored
-336C 19498 5Y-BNJ Grecoair / David Tokoph Cargo, stored Pietersburg; ex Seagreen N14AZ
-307C 19999 5Y-BRV Spirit of Africa seen still stored at Sharjah 11/09
-323C 18940 9G-LAD CargoPlus Aviation Cargo, stored TIP; ex 5N-MXX
-329C 20200 9Q-CBW Hewa Bora Airways Cargo, seen stored Kinshasa 12.5.09 in basic Scibe col.
-351C 19411 9Q-CKR Hewa Bora Airways Cargo, stored Kinshasa
-321B 20022 9Q-CWK Kinshasa Airways Pax, stored Damaskus; ex 3D-JAA
-3J6C 20718 A6-ZYD Flying Dolphin stored Mitiga, seen 10/07 complete but with bad paint
-321C 18717 D2-FAV Air Nacoia Cargo, stored Luanda, seen 22.7.06
-399C 19415 D2-FDZ ETRAM Air Wing seen complete in scrap compound at Luanda 28.3.09
-3J9C 21128 EP-SHK Saha Air Pax, damaged at Ahwaz 3.8.09, possibly damaged beyond repair
-3J9C 21126 EP-SHU Saha Air Pax, stored at THR
-321C 19372 J5-GGU Safari Airlines Cargo, stored at Mombasa after landing gear damage, possibly w/o
-321B 18839 N454PC Wilmington Trust Company Pax, stored MHV
-323B 20177 N706PC Wilmington Trust Company Pax, stored MHV
-351B 18586 N707CA Wilmington Trust Company VIP, stored MHV
-382B 19740 N707FR Omega Air Tanker; probably still stored at San Antonio
-330C 20124 N707HE Omega Air Testbed-PW JT-8 Engines (Stage 3); seen stored Melbourne, FL 6/09 without engines
-3M1C 21092 N707LG Jetran LLC stored Bukarest; bought from Alameda Corp. 6.8.07
-321C 19269 OD-AGO TMA Cargo, stored BEY offered for sale
-321C 19274 OD-AGP TMA Cargo, stored BEY offered for lease/sale
-331C 19214 OD-AGS TMA Cargo, stored BEY offered for sale
-327C 19104 OD-AGX TMA Cargo, stored BEY offered for sale
-327C 19105 OD-AGY TMA Cargo, stored BEY offered for sale
-351C 19776 PP-BRI BETA Cargo Cargo, seen stored Manaus 10/08
-338C 18808 PT-WSZ Skymaster grounded after stopping to fly for brazilian postal service
-3J8C 20897 ST-AFA Sudan Airways Cargo; seen stored KRT 3/11, complete
-3J8C 20898 ST-AFB Sudan Airways Cargo; seen stored KRT 3/11 all white without engines
-321C 19367 ST-AMF TAAT Cargo, seen stored at KRT 3/11 on apron, for sale
-336C 20517 ST-AQW Sudanese States Aviation Cargo; seen stored KRT 3/11
-3J6C 20720 ST-ARI Sudanese States Aviation Cargo; seen stored KRT 3/11
-384C 18948 ST-JCC AZZA Cargo; stored Khartoum in full c/s, seen 03/11
-370C 20889 YI-AGE Iraqi Airways Cargo stored Amman
-370C 20890 YI-AGF Iraqi Airways Pax, stored Amman
-3K1C 20804 YR-ABB Romavia stored, last flight 27.9.10
-323C 19517 ZS-IJI Inter Air / David Tokoph seen stored still complete at Pietersburg 27.4.10


(http://www.aviation-friends-cologne.de/ ... 707eng.htm)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:47 pm 
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Here's a list of N-numbers that may be eligible....

N2153H
N960CC
N500JT
N792FA
N791SA
N138ST
N735T
N730JP

N3842X has been seen flying into Dallas in the past year.



The following seem to be current with the FAA

N707SE
I saw this one in Albuquerque last summer.
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... rtxt=707SE

N45RT
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... ertxt=45RT

N725CA
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... rtxt=725CA

N454PC
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... rtxt=454PC

N720GS
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... rtxt=720GS

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:56 pm 
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I don't know how helpful-but isn't Quantas flying one in Australia? Is it the wrong model?
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You're thinking of John Travolta's airplane. It's painted in QANTAS's famous V-Jet colors (which it was, when new). And yes, it is unfortunately the wrong model.

(BTW, for anyone who cares... QANTAS is an acronym and all letters should be caps... stands for Queensland And Northern Territories Air Service). 8)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:38 pm 
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I believe Lowa is still flying their N88ZL:
Lowa Limited
6750 NW 79TH AVE, 2ND FL
MIAMI, FL 33166-2779
(305) 591-0440

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Just some days ago, the NATO at Geilenkirchen, Germany, phased out one of these used as trainer and transport. They have still another one flying which will be phased out end of this year.

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Does NASA still have one?

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