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mrhenniger
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I am hoping that someone in the WIX brain trust knows the ID of this Lockheed 18...
ImageAerial Visuals - Location Dossier - Falcon Field, Phoenix, AZ - Mystery Lockheed Harpoon at Site B

I stopped by there last month, and I would like to ID the airframe for my photo. Photos of my entire trip to follow of course. There will be another mega photo thread.

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P.S. If anyone knows the ID of the Beech 18 at Site A as well that would be fantastic.

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Are you sure this is a Lockheed 18? I don't see any fuselage windows or horizontal stabs outboard of the verticals.

Is it this PV-2?
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It's definitely a 'poon. Don't know if it's the one in the second pic or not.

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Smaller of the two is a Beech 18...Larger is a PV-2 :D This is Air Responses yard/Billy Packard's
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OK then it is a PV Poon.

The Google birds eye image available via my link best represent the current arrangement of things as of my visit on September 10th. The airframe in question is in bare metal.

So............ Does anyone have any ID info for this one?

Thanks in advance.

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D Hansen wrote:
Smaller of the two is a Beech 18...Larger is a PV-2 :D This is Air Responses yard/Billy Packard's


Billy Packard is a WIX member and indicates the Harpoon belongs to Kermit Weeks.
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.o ... p?p=345618

http://www.warbirdregistry.org/pv2harpo ... 37211.html

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Hmmmm..... It was my understanding that it was 37211 that went to Palm Springs...
ImageAerial Visuals - Airframe Dossier - PV-2 Harpoon [L-15], s/n 37211 USN, c/r NR7273C

I saw it there earlier in my travels, but they had started to repaint it and there was no longer a visible registration.

Can anyone here confirm 37211 went to the Palm Springs Air Museum? If so this still leaves the question of which airframe I saw at Falcon Field.

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I may be answering my own question here. This is from Andy Marden's book...
(37633) Lockheed PV-2D c/n 15-1599 N7454C

Nothing in the book about the Beech 18 stored outside. So if anyone has any ideas... :-)

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The PV-2 is N7268C, serial # 37129 and the Beech is a SNB-5, that has never been registred and I do not know the serial number.

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Hey, Mike: I have these, from 2000:


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N-7273C Falcon Field 0400.jpg
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I am one of them 'futbol' people.

Will the previous owner has pics of this double cabin sample

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And, the unknowns [to me]:


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Will the previous owner has pics of this double cabin sample

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Just ask Pooner, he probably knows off the top of his head !

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As stated..by the owner and others...the mystery Poon is indeed Mr Billy's PV-2 15-1095....37129...this bird is the 2nd oldest known surviving Harpoon.

In the other photo's...N7483C is the Weeks PV-2 in Chino...in front of Aero Traders the last time I was out west...this is15-1168...37202

N7273C...ex-Weeks PV-2....15-1172.....37211...this is now at Palm Springs...I got the bomb doors for my bird off this one.

N7454C....PV-2D...15-1599...37633 This is still at Falcon Field...Pooner's Harpoon.

At this time there are 4 PV-2s at Falcon...the two stated above, plus N7257C..(Pooners also) tucked in a hangar..and Bob Ried's PV-2....N86492..

Two other Harpoons are at Chandler...plus a Howard 500...

There was an L-18 at Buckeye a while back, but it flew to Cali.

An L-18/Howard at Eloy, Az.

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I thought the Eloy airplane is a Learstar.
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