Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:41 am
It was indeed, James. However, the thread was asking about surviving combat veterans that still fly, and the P-11c doesn'tJDK wrote:Wasn't the Polish Air Museum's PZL P-11c a veteran (and thus the oldest W.W.II veteran? - Course that depends on when you reckon W.W.II started - 1937, 1939, 1941...)
. All that Labatts must be affecting your eyesight! 
Mon Jul 05, 2004 12:32 pm
But it runs, Mike, it runs... Any chance of a pic to prove it?
As I don't drink beer and I certainly don't drink the wee that passes for beer in N America, it can't be that, slowing me up!
As I don't drink beer and I certainly don't drink the wee that passes for beer in N America, it can't be that, slowing me up!
Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:02 pm
Sorry, James, 'runs' aint 'flies', whether it's a P-11c, Fw 190D-9, or whatever. If it don't fly, it ain't airworthy! Period.
Still, that's a lovely thing, that P-11c, and too valuable and historic to fly, IMHO. The fact that it runs, rather than sits gathering cobwebs, or spins around on a rotating plinth until I get dizzy watching it, gives it life and soul.
Still, that's a lovely thing, that P-11c, and too valuable and historic to fly, IMHO. The fact that it runs, rather than sits gathering cobwebs, or spins around on a rotating plinth until I get dizzy watching it, gives it life and soul.
Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:23 pm
Mike wrote:Sorry, James, 'runs' aint 'flies', whether it's a P-11c, Fw 190D-9, or whatever. If it don't fly, it ain't airworthy! Period.
Still, that's a lovely thing, that P-11c, and too valuable and historic to fly, IMHO. The fact that it runs, rather than sits gathering cobwebs, or spins around on a rotating plinth until I get dizzy watching it, gives it life and soul.
If it runs then it probably is airworthy, I'm pretty sure its the landingworthy thats the question. You can get almost anything to fly.
Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:33 pm
Hi Mike,
I agree that they are different things, but a runner is better than static for me too. T'would be nice to see a replica or two of the P11c instead of all those repetative P-51Ds we get.
Scott,
Sure - but I don't think the Poles would like to have to pick up the pieces of this a/c again...
Cheers
James K
I agree that they are different things, but a runner is better than static for me too. T'would be nice to see a replica or two of the P11c instead of all those repetative P-51Ds we get.
Scott,
Sure - but I don't think the Poles would like to have to pick up the pieces of this a/c again...
Cheers
James K
Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:38 pm
JDK wrote:Hi Mike,
I agree that they are different things, but a runner is better than static for me too. T'would be nice to see a replica or two of the P11c instead of all those repetative P-51Ds we get.
Scott,
Sure - but I don't think the Poles would like to have to pick up the pieces of this a/c again...
Cheers
James K
I would love to see a couple of Polish types flying.
And James, I'm working on the Bumper sticker idea you gave me
Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:50 am
I read or heard that the CAF B-25 in Arizona was another MTO vet.
The Fighter Factories Spitfire is a combat vet also, They have a nice plaque That travels with the aircraft laying out where and with whom its fought and been.
I moved this out of my other post, it seems to fit better in the right
thread.
The Fighter Factories Spitfire is a combat vet also, They have a nice plaque That travels with the aircraft laying out where and with whom its fought and been.
I moved this out of my other post, it seems to fit better in the right
thread.
Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:30 am
JDK wrote:T'would be nice to see a replica or two of the P11c instead of all those repetative P-51Ds we get.
Blasphemy!
If we figured out a way to synthetically produce women, would we make supermodels or ugly ones?? C'mon!
Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:08 am
Randy
I think there is a need for less 'pretty' ones in order for us to appreciate the 'pretty' ones ....and not take them for granted , besides the P11C has its own charm
Dave
I think there is a need for less 'pretty' ones in order for us to appreciate the 'pretty' ones ....and not take them for granted , besides the P11C has its own charm
Dave
Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:12 pm
Randy Haskin wrote:If we figured out a way to synthetically produce women, would we make supermodels or ugly ones?? C'mon!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And beside, if all you had was thousands of Heidi Klum wouldn't you get bored? I mean, granted, like mustangs they would be fun to play with but it would get old after a decade or two
Personally I think the A-10 is one of the most beautiful aircraft out there, which isn't the general opinion.
However, like a cloned Heidi Klum, if someone gave me a Mustang I wouldn't tell them to bugger off.