Greybull, Wyoming

Django · **Posted:** Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:21 pm

What's the story on the Privateer? Didn't they all sell at the auction?

[dreaming]trying to hide secret desire to have a PB4Y-2[/dreaming] :lol:

GARY HILTON · **Posted:** Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:53 pm

I am not for sure, as there were a number of P2v's there....there was one that could have been the one being converted to the turbo-prop configuration...looks like they had tried to cut up one of them with a forklift...one big pile of aircraft mess..

All I know of the PB4Y-2's there, is that Hawkins, and Powers kept one each 4Y for themselves...so the pair that are there are owned..

Tom H · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:29 pm

GARY HILTON wrote:

Yes, the -97 is Lacy's bird.

I recall seeing a total of 4 C-119's there, and two were in Canadian markings

Thanks Gary

Any idea of who to contact? Suggestions?

I thought these were gone

Tom

Mark Sampson · **Joined:** Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:02 pm **Posts:** 302

One Canadian-marked C-119 came from Greybull to the 1941 HAG museum in Geneseo, NY. That might have been ten years ago or more; after sitting for a long time, they are now restoring it to static-display condition.

bmoran · **Joined:** Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:48 am **Posts:** 142

Mark Sampson wrote:

One Canadian-marked C-119 came from Greybull to the 1941 HAG museum in Geneseo, NY. That might have been ten years ago or more; after sitting for a long time, they are now restoring it to static-display condition.

The C-119 in question is a Fairchild

Construction Number: 10678
Year Built: 1948
Aircraft Type:- C-119F-FA

USAF
Serial Number 51-2689
Transferred to RCAF : 9/1952

RCAF
Serial Number: 22103

She was transfered to Geneseo in 1990.

RareBear · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:43 pm

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The C-119 in question is a Fairchild

That's not really too remarkable, since 1112 of the 1183 C-119's made were made by Fairchild.

Walt

Tom H · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:58 pm

Thanks for the information gentlemen.

Is that the only one remaining or are there other ex RCAF C-119s there still?

Tom

GARY HILTON · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:18 am

T
wo there in RCAF markings...B&G Aviation is the only contact that I know of at Greybull...Hope this helps

Tom H · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:29 pm

Thanks Gary

I will begin the Quest once again

Tom

MKD1966 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:43 pm

What ever happened to the C-119 and P2V operated by David Brady in Cartersville Georgia back in the late 80's or early 90's... He used to bring them to Tico... I know he was killed in his T-37 around June of 91, but I don't know what happened to his other stuff... Thanks, Mike

Speedy · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:08 pm

Mark Sampson wrote:

One Canadian-marked C-119 came from Greybull to the 1941 HAG museum in Geneseo, NY. That might have been ten years ago or more; after sitting for a long time, they are now restoring it to static-display condition.

Isn't that 'the trade' that sort of set off the Congressional Investigation of the 'firebomber/museums' scandal?

JohnB · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:45 pm

Speedy wrote:

Mark Sampson wrote:

Isn't that 'the trade' that sort of set off the Congressional Investigation of the 'firebomber/museums' scandal?

I though that was where the service museums traded early C-130s, C-118, Convairs and the like for WWII-era stuff.
And some of the ex-military aircraft found employment on the "black market" or somesuch.

I might be wrong...

Speedy · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:24 pm

JohnB wrote:

Speedy wrote:

Mark Sampson wrote:

Isn't that 'the trade' that sort of set off the Congressional Investigation of the 'firebomber/museums' scandal?

I though that was where the service museums traded early C-130s, C-118, Convairs and the like for WWII-era stuff.
And some of the ex-military aircraft found employment on the "black market" or somesuch.

I might be wrong...

I thought I remembered it specifically citing a C-119 to Geneseo and the question of whether it was legitimately a 'warbird of historic significance' or something like that...and it snowballed from there. And it had to do with 'trading' the government these said "significant" aircraft for C-130's. I don't think that in and of itself was the issue...but it was part of the eyebrow raising that led to the discovery of selling one or more of the C-130s for profit....

But I am getting old, so I could be WAAAAY off.

mrhenniger · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:53 am

It appears the paperwork for the C-97...

Aerial Visuals - Airframe Dossier - KC-97L Stratotanker, s/n 53-0265 USAF, c/n 17047, c/r N497HP
...was just recently completed to show this Strato in the hands of Harold Sheppard, although WD5 indicates he has owned it since 2006. Was is the currently condition of 53-365? Does this paperwork update indicate a pending movement of the airframe?

Mike

skippyscage · **Posted:** Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:40 pm

Harold is the local scrapper - so read into that what you will

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