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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:03 pm 
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I think some people simply don't think of aircraft pieces in those terms though and is why many find what I'm saying perplexing.


I applaud your efforts on the F-84 cockpit. I think it was well worth saving and is a great piece. I've considered buying a couple of piles of wreckage myself so I appreciate them I just don't think this particular one is significant.

Can't save them all is not apathy it is reality like it or not. That is just my opinon of course and I thought that was what you were looking for here.


All I can say in reply is if anyone is chopping fighter fuselages, call me and I have a trailer. :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:25 pm 
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There is an F-16 engine from a wreck on the Avon park bombing range. I'm sure it would fit on your trailer.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:09 pm 
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I just saw this today when I got the listing email. It's listed as Aircraft Aluminum? Can someone explain why this didn't go to a museum? Even in current forum it has historical significance.

http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/v ... GLSPPS7580

Look specific at pictures 11, 14-16 and 21 in the listing to see what I'm talking about.


has anybody got any idea of aircraft's c.n?

i am looking on F-16.net right now to see if i can find it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:13 pm 
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thanks for the info.



http://www.f-16.net/gallery_item15769.html


wow that is what's left of this aircraft??
i am thinking it WOULD make a nice display. :drink3:

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Quote "A few of you have a lack of interesting vision when it comes to things like this." End Quote

We seem to have this topic come up from time to time. What should take up valuable museum floor space and what constitutes a significant airframe. The last time this came up was a poster reporting that one of the F-15 Eagles from the MASS ANG that was scrambled out of Otis on 9/11 was slated to be scrapped. That poster and others, myself included felt this airframe should be preserved as historically significant. There were a lot of responders who said "What For? All it did was fly over the collapsing towers." "We should be preserving a MIG Killer or one that dropped a bomb in combat."

The job of a museum exhibit is not to just teach about a system, but also resonate with the public at large so they can make a connection to that point in history. In 100 years no one will know or care about an F-15's BVR Kill over Kosovo, nor are they likely to recall a relative who served in that theater. But they would most likely know how their great-grandfather was in NYC at 9/11. They will also have the news video of the then mayor walking through the rubble strewn streets with his entourage looking for a new command center, and then flinch at the roar of jet engines when the camera cuts skyward to catch a shot of the F-15 and hear "It's OK they're ours!" Someone will say "What happened to that plane?" "It was scrapped 90 years ago."

Now while the upcoming Ground Zero museum will feature crushed fire trucks and charred personal items which may resonate with the public, I'm not sure how siginificant a charred piece of TB F-16 is going to be. It would just be a curiosity, as most people will not even know of this accident, let alone attended the show in person.

I'm also not convinced of the practice of recovering wrecks and displaying them as is in a crash setting. Whether it might be Swamp Ghost or a Lake Michigan bird I'd rather see it restored to tell it's story even at the expense of replacement of original metal, then to show an empty hulk. I wonder how many docents get the question, "So when is this plane going to be restored?", when looking at a crash diorama.


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10,000 lbs approx, aircraft residue, lot includes (6) 8X4X4 wood crates containing but not limited to aircraft grade aluminum, and small amounts of electrical wire and connector ends. Two of the crates contain property that has already been shredded. Also included is a 21X11X5 fuselage requiring mutilation.


I guess they mean "additional" mutiliation.

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