Warbird Information Exchange

I had a customer ask me today if I knew of a source for metric sized clecos.
Does anyone have a source?

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Lest Hero-worship raise it's head and cloud our vision, remember that World War II was fought and won by the same sort of twenty-something punks we wouldn't let our daughters date.

The same place that you purchase metric rivets?

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If God had wanted man to fly behind a flat motor, Pratt Whitney would've built one.

Oh that's good!

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Scott Dunkirk
AZGCLHU Inc.

http://arizonagroundcrew.org/

1940's Army Air Force ground crew living history
(A 501 C 3 organization)
(IYAMYAS)

"Yes sir, it's suppose to look like that"

I think I still have a Whitworth screwdriver from my boat racing crewman days-

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Don't make me go get my flying monkeys-

darn! Where'd I leave that box of compass bearings!


Scott

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Scott Dunkirk
AZGCLHU Inc.

http://arizonagroundcrew.org/

1940's Army Air Force ground crew living history
(A 501 C 3 organization)
(IYAMYAS)

"Yes sir, it's suppose to look like that"

I don't get it. Why don't I ever get it?

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"I knew the jig was up when I saw the P-51D-20-NA Mustang blue-nosed bastards from Bodney, and by the way the blue was more of a royal blue than an indigo and the inner landing gear interiors were NOT green, over Berlin."

Easy peasy
Would you like the 3.2mm, 4.0mm or the 4.8mm ones?

I love it, 20 something years of these and never heard this one before

last time I saw them they were right next to the 5 gallon bucket of prop wash-did you bring the realtive bearing grease?

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Don't make me go get my flying monkeys-

Bit of thread drift here but I remember the day as a young baggie in the Airforce being sent to the Alis house (our early computer system server location) for something or other. The directions were for a location in the on base married patch, which seemed abit odd and half way there the realisation came to me that I was to ask for a Flight Sergeant Wait.....

I tossed up the idea of calling my bosses bluff, then thought what the heck, if they pay me to be there all afternoon what is it to me.

Alas for me, on arrival the Corporal took me through to Flight Sergeant Waite, and I had to return to work almost immediatly.

It may well be a send-up, but I'm taking it as a challenge. After all, MiG's, Sukhois and pretty much everything else built east of the Bier/Pivo line were metric, so there have to be Klekoviches or something similar out there somewhere.




The 4.0mm ones are my back-up plan<G>

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Lest Hero-worship raise it's head and cloud our vision, remember that World War II was fought and won by the same sort of twenty-something punks we wouldn't let our daughters date.

I hope you realize we were just letting off a little pent up humor (unfortunately, I can't use my Saturday mid day crank yanker by calling a parts store and do a 'parts pricing' for Volkswagen water pumps anymore).
Any simularly sized clecos will work just fine as rivet holes are supposed to be a teeny bit sloppy since you will make the rivet fit the hole by driving it, if the cleco isn't quite tight enough, use a washer on the far size of the hole for drawup. So you'd drill a .191/193 hole to install a .190 (3/16ths) rivet and so on, close tolerance holes (lockbolts, Hiloks, etc.) should be left undersized by at least 1 nominal size until you are ready to do final sizing and installation (if Taperloks are involved-RUN AWAY!! Taperlok holes are the leading reason that aircraft sheetmetal guys become alcoholics, besides you'd need to have access to a Winslow motor). If you drill a close tolerance hole to size first and the parts shift or 'grow' from rivet installation (and the sheet will grow from pounding on the metal) your hole will be no good and there may not be a 'next oversize' fastener.

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Don't make me go get my flying monkeys-

No, but you can still call up the Nissan dealer and ask for a "twenty-eight ounce pump" 28 Oz <G>

Besides the silliness is better than some of the low-grade vitriol elsewhere.

For good or ill, I've developed the reputation at work as being the guy that can find things, no matter how obscure, whether it's the text of an obsolete MILspec, or chemical resistant ping-pong balls. That being the case I took this one at face value (and knowing that clecos are...imprecise) as just another one of the things I'm expected to pull out of my a$$ without standing up.
I did call his bluff today, allowing as how I could get the 4.0mm ones immediately, but at 2.75 Złoty each in minimum lots of 100

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Lest Hero-worship raise it's head and cloud our vision, remember that World War II was fought and won by the same sort of twenty-something punks we wouldn't let our daughters date.

try metric screw. they are on net and most anything in metric for engines and a/c

Try Monogram Aerospace. See here:

http://www.monogramaerospace.com/files/ ... atalog.pdf

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Bill Goebel
aka TPFD

Vintage Aircraft Services
Aircraft restoration and rebuilding
Rhome, TX

http://www.vintageaircraftservices.net

Perfect! Thank you!

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Lest Hero-worship raise it's head and cloud our vision, remember that World War II was fought and won by the same sort of twenty-something punks we wouldn't let our daughters date.