Airtanker Memories

cadam · **Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:36 am

Still haven't seen ANY of the images on this thread ... :!:

51fixer · **Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:08 am

cadam wrote:

Still haven't seen ANY of the images on this thread ... :!:

Must be a problem with your computer/program (I have a MAC with Safari) or if you view at work there could be a firewall to prevent the images from being viewed.

Ztex · **Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:48 am

Yippee! I see the pics today!
WOW!

cadam · **Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:30 am

I see a group of images posted on march 24 and one on March 30, but nothing else. is the PhotoBucket problem to blame? Checked my work system, and images on other threads are OK.

Ztex · **Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:37 pm

I can see all of the photos today. Before now they have not been visible because we maxed out his Photobucket bandwidth limit.

If you are still not seeing them you might clear your history and / or cookies and refresh...see if they show up.

Z

Lt51506 · **Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:14 pm

I'm back! Between Photobucket issues and a bad bout with pneumonia, I think I'll be in fine shape for awhile. Thanks everyone for your patience with me over the last month or so. Now, where did I leave off......

Hemet Valley Flying Service, C-97 Tanker 84, high speed pass down the actice at Reno, Date unknown.

Hawkins & Powers PB4Y-2, Tanker 124, Date and location unknown.

Hawkins & Powers PB4Y-2, Tanker 126, Date and location unknown.

Hemet Valley Flying Service, Tanker 88 and 82, Bookending a Neptune Aviation P2-V on the ramp at Ryan Air Attack Base, Hemet, Ca, Date unknown.

Hemet Valley Flying Service, Tanker 82, Over the numbers at Ryan Air Attack Base, Hemet Ca. Date unknown.

Aerial Applicators DC-6, Tanker 20, Date and location unknown.

Aero Union DC-4, Tanker 15, Fox Field Ca, Date unknown

California Department of Forestry (now CalFire), Bell UH-1F, Copter 106, Date and location unknown.

Aero Union B-17, Half tanker - half warbird, already a veteran. In storage, late 60's, Chico Ca.

AJ Air Tankers, AJ-1 Tanker 88, Rare shot of the business side of this beast. Van Nuys Ca. Date unknown, *****I think this is a Bill Larkins photo, the pencil written data on the back side is pretty washed out.

Dan Johnson II · **Joined:** Tue May 04, 2004 1:49 am **Posts:** 659

Anyone know more about that 17 in the last batch of photos? Can't help but notice the nose glass and how it appears to have the modification for the single 50 cal and the bracing still in place. That was an 8th AF mod wasn't it? was that bird a returned vet?

Matthias Dorst · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:05 am

really awesome stuff ! Thanks for sharing !!!!!

RNDMTRS4EVR · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:22 pm

Ahhhhhhhh................ Feeling better now. THANK YOU!

Scott........

WallyB · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:44 pm

RNDMTRS4EVR wrote:

Ahhhhhhhh................ Feeling better now. THANK YOU!

Scott........

You can always get a 'fix' here: http://ronsarchive.com/L2oouindex.htm

PS. Is that an underwing registration on the B-17 ? N?342A

Todd Hackbarth · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:37 pm

Regarding the B-17 with the orange/red engine cowlings, I checked the book "Final Cut" Third Edition by Scott Thompson; specifically Appendix Two - Civil B-17s: Registration-Serial Cross Reference. This listing shows only one Flying Fortress that had a U.S. civil registration ("N" number) ending with an "A". This aircraft was B-17F-45-VE 42-6073, N7942A.

B-17F 42-6073 was delivered to the USAAF on 13 July, 1942. It remained in the U.S. during WWII, serving as a TB-17F and an RB-17F. After the war it was transferred by the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to Hancock College in Santa Maria, CA for "educational purposes". It was sold to Jack Lysdale of St. Paul, MN on 12 April 1954 and registered as N7942A. On 1 Sept. 1957, ownership of 42-6073 was transferred to Lysdale Flying Service. The aircraft was purchased by Minnesota Airmotive of Minneapolis, MN on 12 Sept. 1957.

N7942A was sold on 6 Sept. 1960 to L.B. Smith of Miami, FL. Nine days later, this B-17 was purchased by Corporation Bolivia de Fuemento to be used as a transport and was given the Bolivian registration of CP-686. It was transferred to Lloyd Aereo Boliviano on 5 April 1965. On 4 November 1968, B-17F 42-6073 was destroyed in a crash at Trinidad, Bolivia.

If the B-17 in the subject photo is indeed N7942A, then the caption shown is in error, at the very least in listing its owner as Aero Union.

See:

http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/1942_1.html
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/b17registry/b17-426073.html
http://www.aerovintage.com/b17list.htm

Todd Hackbarth

Lt51506 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:51 am

I'm only going by what is written on the slide...which most of these are faded beyond belief. I'm thinking that this may have been one of the several airframes that were aquired, but never papered with AU. So many of these birds are missing in paper trail at some point.

vernicator · **Joined:** Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:42 am **Posts:** 350

Lt51506 wrote:

Here's some more eye candy. Just let me know if I'm boring you yet

US Forest Service DC-3, Abbotsford BC Canada, July 5 1986. Part of the Expo 86 gathering of DC-3s.

Cool fact: this airframe (c/n.20494) is still with the forest service but has since been converted to a Basler BT-67 with PT-6s and a lengthened fuselage.

Nathan · **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:10 am

I can see some photos but not all.

cadam · **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:32 am

It's funny about seeing these photos. I can now see the above photo at work, using Firefox, but something in the federal gov system seems to be blocking the rest. At home, tho', I can see ALL photos, using Firefox on the Mac. ... And they are AMAZING!

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