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Re: Tuesday in Chino

Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:17 am

Hemiman wrote:OWIE OWIE OWIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Does this qualify for what is known as a Hotfoot? will spray for athletes foot put out the flames?

Re: Tuesday in Chino

Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:28 am

Howdy All

Any news or pics of Paul Allen's B-25 paint job yet guys ?

Lightning

Re: Tuesday in Chino

Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:36 am

agent86 wrote:and did you guys from the snow covered states notice the snow covered mountains behind the P-40? it was very cold yesterday ,only in the 60's.I actually had to wear a sweatshirt. I hate the winters here.What is snow? what does it feel life? izzit cold?


:finga: :finga: :finga: :butthead: :finga: :finga: :finga:

Re: Tuesday in Chino

Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:14 am

You've got to love Chino...the only place in America where wrbirds are as common as Cessnas...and get about the same attention.

What's that...another Mustang? :D

Re: Tuesday in Chino

Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:03 pm

Speaking of Mustangs and Chino, has N5420V (44-74202) flown yet/soon? (Just curious)

Re: Tuesday in Chino

Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:21 pm

Again, thank you for making me do an internet search on the serial number when you could have just said, "Jack Croul's latest Mustang." :evil:

No, it has not yet flown if it is the one I'm thinking of, and probably will not for a few months yet.

Re: Tuesday in Chino

Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:06 pm

Yes, Jack Croul's second Mustang, should have simply sated that as you say...lesson learned.

Based on the last line in JohnB's post, the thought of this aircraft came to mind once again - it looked very complete at last year's Planes of Fame show, though I know as of late it has been at Fighter Rebuilders I believe. I enjoyed following the restoration while updates were being posted to the Allied Fighters web site.

Thank you BDK for the feedback!

Re: Tuesday in Chino

Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:13 pm

No harm done John, it's just funny when someone asks for help but the question is in the form of a riddle!

Since the plane is so highly polished, I understand that all new fairings will be made to allow the best result posible.

Re: Tuesday in Chino

Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:40 pm

If I am ever around a Mustang with a close friend/relative who hasn't been up-close in person before with one, I like to make it a point to show them those fairings, especially the forward cowl into wing leading edge fairing, but other fairings as well such as the 'elephant ear' at the trailing edge. Some amazing metal work/craftsmanship can be seen in those specific regions, which can often be 'gazed over' if trying to take in the entire aircraft as a whole. I look forward to seeing the finished results - last year it looked like it could easily be an art exhibit if not for at one time produced as a fighting machine!

I'll look forward to hearing how things 'pick up' regarding warbird activity at Chino as well, as the big show approaches. ;)

Re: Tuesday in Chino

Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:12 am

JohnTerrell wrote:Yes, Jack Croul's second Mustang, should have simply sated that as you say...lesson learned.

Based on the last line in JohnB's post, the thought of this aircraft came to mind once again - it looked very complete at last year's Planes of Fame show, though I know as of late it has been at Fighter Rebuilders I believe. I enjoyed following the restoration while updates were being posted to the Allied Fighters web site.

Thank you BDK for the feedback!


Here are a couple shots March of this year:
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Re: Tuesday in Chino

Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:27 am

SUH WEET

Re: Tuesday in Chino

Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:51 am

JohnTerrell wrote:I'll look forward to hearing how things 'pick up' regarding warbird activity at Chino as well, as the big show approaches. ;)


Speaking of the big show. It has occurred to me that with the aircraft already listed as participating, they are in a position to put up the following cool formation at the show:

Spitfire
Zero
Fw 190 rep.
Yak-3 rep.
P-51 (or some other US fighter)

This would one-up the Spit-Zero-Buchon-Mustang formation that POF once did in the early 90s. I don't think a 5-nation WW2 fighter formation like this has ever been done.

Just hoping they don't get so wrapped up in the USN scheme that this opportunity slips by.

August

Re: Tuesday in Chino

Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:32 pm

JohnTerrell wrote:If I am ever around a Mustang with a close friend/relative who hasn't been up-close in person before with one, I like to make it a point to show them those fairings, especially the forward cowl into wing leading edge fairing, but other fairings as well such as the 'elephant ear' at the trailing edge. Some amazing metal work/craftsmanship can be seen in those specific regions, which can often be 'gazed over' if trying to take in the entire aircraft as a whole. I look forward to seeing the finished results - last year it looked like it could easily be an art exhibit if not for at one time produced as a fighting machine!

I'll look forward to hearing how things 'pick up' regarding warbird activity at Chino as well, as the big show approaches. ;)


John,

Great observation. The wing and tail fairings are the labor intensive and very tricky to make and make well. As far as I know, nobody has built the forms and dies to stretch and press them out...probably never will at this point. The best guy in the business making them with an E-wheel and P-hammer is Bill Yoak. I'm not sure there is anything he can't make by hand and do it perfectly...a true craftsman. I'm told by those who have made them that the shoulder fairings are the most difficult with the butterfly's (Elephant ears as you call them) being a close second. I'll have to take the word of the guys who've made them since with my limited experience I'm sure all I could manage to make is a freaking potato chip.

Pay close attention to the welds on the shoulder and butterfly's as well (Wing and horizontal tips too). Back in the day these welds were performed with a gas torch -not an easy task- and were extremely small and incredibly perfect...almost like a piece of yarn laying on the surface of the part. Today most guys TIG weld them which produces a much wider and flatter weld zone. If you see one that has no weld on it, it's probably not metal...give it the gentle tap test when nobody is looking to reveal the cheaters... :lol:

John

Re: Tuesday in Chino

Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:40 pm

Spitfire
Zero
Fw 190 rep.
Yak-3 rep.
P-51 (or some other US fighter)

This would one-up the Spit-Zero-Buchon-Mustang formation that POF once did in the early 90s. I don't think a 5-nation WW2 fighter formation like this has ever been done.

Just hoping they don't get so wrapped up in the USN scheme that this opportunity slips by.

August[/quote]

Good point August... A formation like that would be fricking awesome... Plus like you said - don't think it's ever been done...
Mike
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