Warbird Information Exchange

Dont know if she will ever fly again. Its pretty hacked up but if anything, I will learn a few things on it to work out some thoughts and repairs for future projects.

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Long Live the N3N-3 "The Last US Military Bi-Plane" 1940-1959
Badmouthing Stearmans on WIX since 2005

I assume it is a N3N? I'd have a hard time picturing you taking home a Stearman... But even Stearman need love.

Glad that you saved it. Any known history with the airframe?

Tim

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www.tailhookstudio.com

Hi,

I picked up an N3N a few years ago that looks to be in the same condition. Mine was in a crash and the front was bent and pushed over pretty good. I removed the side panels and upper and side stringers. The fuse had some of the worst inner-granular corrosion that I have ever seen. The fuse was ultimately recycled, but I still have the stringers, side panels and other odds and ends. I didn't have any wings, engine mount, cowlings landing gear or tail. Do you need any of it? I would like to see it go to a good home, the parts would be free, if you pick them up. I'm just outside Milwaukee, WI and I can send pictures if you would be interested.

Good luck with your project.

Bill

Well tim, if a stray stearman frame came my way, like any mutt......it needs a home. I'm sure I could find some good use for it.

Yea, this one is Bureau No. 2951. It was a duster and my father and uncle are the ones that hacked it up to use some of the pieces to repair our girl during its restoration. The tail section is at my uncles place up in the rafters of his hangar so that will be another trip.

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Long Live the N3N-3 "The Last US Military Bi-Plane" 1940-1959
Badmouthing Stearmans on WIX since 2005

If there's a Stearman needing help, send it this way. I won't call it a mutt...

Ryan

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Aerial Photographer with Red Wing Aerial Photography currently based at KRBD and tailwheel CFI.
Websites: Texas Tailwheel Flight Training, DoolittleRaid.com and Lbirds.com.

The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD. - Prov. 21:31 - Train, Practice, Trust.

Yes bill I am interested!!!!!!!! Would love pics of what is there!!!! I have some extra parts that were not used and those pieces you mentioned are not on my list.

Yea this frame is going to be more a R&D project for now. My reasoning is over the last couple of years, I have seen fuselages and known of a few that have had corrosion issues with the lower longerons. They have come up for sale and are often cheap. I am trying to figure out the feasablilty of making replacement longerons. Just a few years ago we made a replacement carry thought spar for the centersection so we shall see what happens with this.

My only goal in this is to help increase our numbers of flying N3N's

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Long Live the N3N-3 "The Last US Military Bi-Plane" 1940-1959
Badmouthing Stearmans on WIX since 2005

If you send one of those N3N's in trade out of Texas................YOU GOT A DEAL!!!! I always like getting the better end of a deal!!!

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Long Live the N3N-3 "The Last US Military Bi-Plane" 1940-1959
Badmouthing Stearmans on WIX since 2005

Oh no. I was being an opportunist. I'd keep an N3N if I had it. I have learned a few things around here... At the same time, a Stearman would be better than no airplane. And besides, I could re-create that photo I pulled on you some time back.

Ryan

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Aerial Photographer with Red Wing Aerial Photography currently based at KRBD and tailwheel CFI.
Websites: Texas Tailwheel Flight Training, DoolittleRaid.com and Lbirds.com.

The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD. - Prov. 21:31 - Train, Practice, Trust.

LOL...................Just as Jesus did with the cross. I will bear the burden, and carry the 34ft piece of top wing spar through the valley of rotted stearmans..........Follow me and I will show you to those white puffy clouds in the sky by solid built wings.

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Long Live the N3N-3 "The Last US Military Bi-Plane" 1940-1959
Badmouthing Stearmans on WIX since 2005

Oh now you say you would take the stearman......

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Long Live the N3N-3 "The Last US Military Bi-Plane" 1940-1959
Badmouthing Stearmans on WIX since 2005

Hmmm. Mis-reading me? I'd like to have ANY airplane. I think if I was offered an N3N or a Stearman I'd pick the N3N first because of the metal structure, but then again, a Stearman would have the better commercial marketability for a flight school...

Ryan

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Aerial Photographer with Red Wing Aerial Photography currently based at KRBD and tailwheel CFI.
Websites: Texas Tailwheel Flight Training, DoolittleRaid.com and Lbirds.com.

The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD. - Prov. 21:31 - Train, Practice, Trust.

Yep, I thought I had you converted to the dark side..... Here there might have been a glimps of hope and now you went and ruined it by bringing up "commercial marketability". If you had learned a thing or two, you would have know that the general public would have called the N3N a Stearman anyways As any good teacher that has a student behind in class.......I will stay after school and help you....................I see my work is not done!

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Long Live the N3N-3 "The Last US Military Bi-Plane" 1940-1959
Badmouthing Stearmans on WIX since 2005

What a dilemma... If I called it a Stearman, you'd be happy, and the general public, as you say, probably wouldn't know the difference. However, I'd lose all credibility on this board for mis-representing a warbird as something other than it is. Maybe you need to educate more of the public on why a N3N is better than a Stearman - then I'll be OK.

Ryan

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Aerial Photographer with Red Wing Aerial Photography currently based at KRBD and tailwheel CFI.
Websites: Texas Tailwheel Flight Training, DoolittleRaid.com and Lbirds.com.

The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD. - Prov. 21:31 - Train, Practice, Trust.

ROFL Baby steps ryan......I got to get WIX converted first and your fighting me......lol. Guess I got a long way to go

I got a friend who lives up the road from me about 2 mi and he does not realise but he is getting me to like the PT-23's He has 5 (working on the arrival of 3 more airframes) in his barn and now I have a N3N in mine and the nearest airport is about 12 mi away. Quite the little mecca we got going in our tiny part of VT.

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Long Live the N3N-3 "The Last US Military Bi-Plane" 1940-1959
Badmouthing Stearmans on WIX since 2005

Put D Day stripes on it and tell everyone it's a P-51. As for the PT-23s, tell everyone they are the rare N2T Timms and worth twice as much money.