Google map study of AMARC boneyard

[Nathan]

After work this morning I did a google map search of the AMARC aircraft boneyard. Something I do every so often but I desided to try and count some of the types of aircraft still there. I came up with the following:

*Please note these are rough estimates as some aircraft types can be found in more then one location. This count includes holding areas and scrapyards that are adjacent to AMARCA.

*C-131=18
C-123=26
C-141=37+
C-5=12
C-7=11
C-119=1
*C-118=7
C-117=13
*C-121=1
C-47=4
C-97=1
*C-133=1
C-130 "Roman Nose"=1
B-52=90+
B-57=12
S-2 Tracker type=90+
S-2 Tracer=14
O-2=16
OV-1=5+
P2V=7
F-8=3+
B-66=1
UH-16=13
A-7=51+
A-4=90+

Now on with some questions:

*There are still a good number of C-131/T-29 aircraft at AMARC. Not in just one location but at lest 6 different areas I spotted C-131/T-29 aircraft. Why are there still a number of these around? MAkes me wonder why if an aircraft has been retired and in storage for 30 some years they don't allow selling them to the warbird market?

*There is still a C-133 in one of the holding areas. Behind the C-133 is a very rare C-130 "Roman Nose". Both are noted to have their tails chopped off recently. There was an article in Warbirds or Air Classic several years ago showing pictures of both of these planes and then they both were intact. Why just cut off the tails and leave them? Someone having some schooling on how to chop up planes maybe?

*It was hard to tell if one plane was a C-121 or a C-118 but it still had Day Glow orange on it.

*I was surprised to see a few P2V Neptunes. They can be found in 3 locations.

*There are still a good supply of C-117's and I think I was able to spot a few C-47's. Both almost identical airframes but it's possible to tell apart from using the google map. Some seem to have the wings sawed off just outboard of the engines.

*The C-118, still glad a few are still "alive" but I think saving them would be more appropriate.

*Whats gonna happen to that C-97?

If anyone wants to add feel free.

Thanks,
Nathan

[kmiles]

The number of O-2's is going to decrease by 6 pretty soon. There were 6 of them that were transferred to the Museum of the US Air Force, and they were selling them off by sealed bid that ended last week.

[Pat Carry]

Regarding the B-52's, I wonder if any of them are destined for museums?

[mustangwatcher]

Really stupid question here, is it possible to obtain any of the a-4's or a-7's that they have? I know they wont release any fighters but what about attack aircraft?

[viking73]

That is strange about the C-131s/T-29s. I too thought that they'd all be long gone from AMARG at this point but who knows?

-Derek

[JBoyle]

Really stupid question here, is it possible to obtain any of the a-4's or a-7's that they have? I know they wont release any fighters but what about attack aircraft?

Circa 1994 I was assigned to AFMC/PA.
I had some TDY business with the very guy at AMARC whose job it was to give planes away and keep track of the planes on AMARC roles (as opposed to the USAFM).

He had dozens of A-7s to give away. I think if I had a decent cover story or group, he would have given me one on the spot.

He did take me out to the yard, I got to go in the very B-52G I had flown in in 1985...then pretty well worked over and waiting for the blade to fall. Sad.

[Nathan]

Google map just updated their maps so you know that these aircraft are still there.

Yeah it's very strange with the C-131/T-29 type. You can find one here and there, 5 there, another 3 there.....

[RareBear]

Bing Maps had a good low-level oblique photo program called "Birds-Eye", and it covers the AMARC boneyard. Good for making ID's on fuselages, etc. It allows you to rotate the view in 90 degree increments. Their photos appear to be fairly recent.

Walt

[Ethan]

Any idea how many F-4s are there ?

[RickH]

is it possible to obtain any of the a-4's or a-7's that they have? I know they wont release any fighters but what about attack aircraft?

In a word, NO !

Turbine and tactical. It would take an Act of Congress, literally !

Been there,....done that,....

[hercules130]

That is strange about the C-131s/T-29s. I too thought that they'd all be long gone from AMARG at this point but who knows?

-Derek

Most of the aircraft listed and discussed are not in AMARG, but in surrounding scrape yards.

[Ztex]

Looking at the Bing Maps "Birds eye" view...Why is there a United Airlines 727 on celebrity row? And .... it's hard to believe that US bases allow this kind of overflight by Cessna 172's taking pictures like this...cool for us that they do...but...

[hercules130]

Looking at the Bing Maps "Birds eye" view...Why is there a United Airlines 727 on celebrity row? And .... it's hard to believe that US bases allow this kind of overflight by Cessna 172's taking pictures like this...cool for us that they do...but...

First 727 in storage for NASM. Saturday and Sunday tower is bored, so AMARG tour no problem, or at least 7 years ago it was not.

[Mike]

And .... it's hard to believe that US bases allow this kind of overflight by Cessna 172's taking pictures like this...cool for us that they do...but...

I was able to do this last October. The tower were not overly co-operative (this was on a Saturday) but they did allow us a single overflight, but not to orbit. We did manage to fly back the other way just outside the boundry of the field, but then they chased us off again.

[Nathan]

That is strange about the C-131s/T-29s. I too thought that they'd all be long gone from AMARG at this point but who knows?

-Derek

Most of the aircraft listed and discussed are not in AMARG, but in surrounding scrape yards.

I found many types of aircraft in both areas. About 10 C-131's still in AMARC, also many S-2 Tracker types, and about 12 B-57's also. All could be seen in the actual AMARC area. Still plenty of F-4's and lots of F-111's. I did not see any F-14's though.

Hope that help!

-Nate