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Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:13 pm
There have been problems with the buildings at Garber for many years from roofs that leak to buildings lacking heat and a/c. The sooner the collection can be moved to Udvar Hazy the better.
Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:47 am
Stupid question maybe, but are these repairable?
Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:25 am
Repairable is one thing, getting them out of there is another...
Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:17 am
Repariable depends on how badly they are damaged now and by the time they get the roof off of them. If the tails are twisted or there is any major structural damage, my bet is that the insurance companies right them off.
It seems to be common problem these days
http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=34748
Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:55 pm
Building #21 is a small building near the Garber entrance. No aircraft were in the building and no important artfacts were damaged.
Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:58 pm
many years ago I was at Garber, and one of the buildings that was not open to the public had a people door that happen to be open. As we walked past, I looked in the door, and sitting right by the door was a yellow Tucker Torpedo! I wonder where that car is now.
Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:48 pm
bdk wrote:Luckily the global warming argument has been updated to explain that not only does it get too hot due to global warming but there can be record snows as well.
It will be nice when that evil agenda dies. Very tired of that constant brainwashing propaganda.
Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:39 am
mustangdriver wrote:many years ago I was at Garber, and one of the buildings that was not open to the public had a people door that happen to be open. As we walked past, I looked in the door, and sitting right by the door was a yellow Tucker Torpedo! I wonder where that car is now.
Smithsonian has Torpedo 1039, but it's a dark silver color not yellow. She might have been yellow at one point, tho ...
She used to be in the transportation gallery, but wasn't included in the revised "America On the Move" display.
http://www.si.edu/Encyclopedia_si/nmah/tucker.htmBetter pic of her here:

Did find a pic of a yellow Torpedo (
http://www.carstyling.ru/resources/clas ... cker_6.jpg ) but the Wiki page doesn't list any that are yellow (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_Torpedo ). My guess is that you saw 1039 at the time between when she was picked up in a drug bust and became Federal property, and when she was restored for display. Sometime in the 1992-1993 timeframe?
--Garth
Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:20 am
Seems to be an ugly recurring theme...fella in Forest, Va had a building collapse from the snow weight. In it were two GTO convertibles, a Jaguar and a 1967 Mustang Convertible (1 of 158?). He seems to think only one of the cars is repairable.
Go away global warming
Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:06 pm
Just as a quick update on the Dulles Jet Center courtesy of Aviation International News;
"Dulles Jet Center Vows To Rebuild
Dulles Jet Center–which is now closed after three of its four 40,000-sq-ft hangars collapsed on February 6, succumbing to the weight of more than 32 inches of snow–plans to rebuild at its site on the west side of Washington Dulles International Airport. David Landow, who owns the facility along with his father Nathan and brother Michael, told AIN, “We are presently closed for all business [hangar and ramp] while repairs are made to Hangar D and the Flight Services Building [terminal building] and while plans for the reconstruction of the damaged hangars are prepared. We will reopen in phases, but no estimate yet on when that will start to occur.” The roofs of Hangars A, B, and C collapsed completely, while Hangar D suffered structural damage but remains standing. No Dulles Jet Center personnel were injured in the mishap, but 14 business jets–Gulfstreams, Bombardier Globals and Dassault Falcons–were crushed by structural beams. According to industry sources, all of the damaged aircraft are write-offs, with damages for the jets estimated at more than $300 million. Nathan Landow wasn’t able to put a dollar figure on the damage to the facility itself, but when the 160,000-sq-ft hangar complex opened in late 2006 it was estimated to have cost $60 million to build.
Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:46 pm
Some more information on the Garber cave-in can be found here:
http://www.clarkconstruction.com/projects/feature_project/5794/. Apparently "nearly 100%" of the artifacts were recovered; building has been torn down.
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