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Pics of CAF Hellcat when owned by John Sandberg

Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:05 pm

Something I saw a while back.
Unsure if it has been posted before.
Slideshow imbedded here-
http://allstarwarbirds.com/jrs_hellcat.html

Rich

Re: Pics of CAF Hellcat when owned by John Sandberg

Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:35 pm

OK.... I remember the black and red Hellcat. That crash and flipping it over on its back was pretty incredible..... Amazing nobody (I'm assuming that) got killed.

More than that I looked up Miss Ashley (P-51 N100DD...... Not the LEARJETWING Airplane)..... I was in FL in 1995 or 1996 when it was at Kissimmee in Tom Riley's hangar before it got shipped to the Netherlands. I can say it was one ROUGH looking P-51 from what I recall, I don't think I took any pictures. From what I can see now, its well on its way to being restored and getting ready to fly.

Mark H

Re: Pics of CAF Hellcat when owned by John Sandberg

Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:38 am

P51Mstg wrote:OK.... I remember the black and red Hellcat. That crash and flipping it over on its back was pretty incredible..... Amazing nobody (I'm assuming that) got killed.

More than that I looked up Miss Ashley (P-51 N100DD...... Not the LEARJETWING Airplane)..... I was in FL in 1995 or 1996 when it was at Kissimmee in Tom Riley's hangar before it got shipped to the Netherlands. I can say it was one ROUGH looking P-51 from what I recall, I don't think I took any pictures. From what I can see now, its well on its way to being restored and getting ready to fly.

Mark H


Jack had purchased N100DD to use as a testbed for the single-stage Merlin he wanted to use in Tsunami. Chuck Hall crash landed it at Reno in '83, and I can remember seeing it at Chino as they were repairing it--LOTS of bondo. So with that in mind, it was repaired with more of a 'racing' mentality, not a 'warbird' mentality. Gary bought it from Jack a few months before he went off to summer camp. After that endeavor was over they changed the registration to N345 and Gary flew/raced that plane for half a dozen years. It looked good on the outside, and I know Gary took good care of it. I recall Ralph Payne saying that the guy in Europe who Gary ended up selling the plane to had been bugging him for years, and essentially finally 'gave in'.

But once Gary sold it, I think it was disassembled and stored in a hanger for several years. So it being pretty 'rough' may have been a combination of the repair job from the racing, as well as having sat around exposed.

Re: Pics of CAF Hellcat when owned by John Sandberg

Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:10 pm

Speedy, I know this deal got OT from the Hellcat thing, but didn't the late Jim Orton fly that airplane with the Sandburg single stage blower??? :roll:
Robbie 8)

Re: Pics of CAF Hellcat when owned by John Sandberg

Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:00 pm

Robbie Stuart wrote:Speedy, I know this deal got OT from the Hellcat thing, but didn't the late Jim Orton fly that airplane with the Sandburg single stage blower??? :roll:
Robbie 8)


Yup. Jim Orton raced it in '82 at Reno. And for a 'rookie', I was very impressed. I didn't know of him all that much, but what I recall he was the CAF check pilot for the Arizona Wing's B-17 or something like that. But he was one hell of a stick. Looked like he'd been doing it every day his entire life.

At some point between 82-84 Sandberg realized that the single-stage Merlin just wasn't going to give enough boost to where the Unlimiteds were going speed-wise. But it was a nice experiment.

Re: Pics of CAF Hellcat when owned by John Sandberg

Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:45 pm

Speedy wrote:
Robbie Stuart wrote:Speedy, I know this deal got OT from the Hellcat thing, but didn't the late Jim Orton fly that airplane with the Sandburg single stage blower??? :roll:
Robbie 8)


Yup. Jim Orton raced it in '82 at Reno. And for a 'rookie', I was very impressed. I didn't know of him all that much, but what I recall he was the CAF check pilot for the Arizona Wing's B-17 or something like that. But he was one heck of a stick. Looked like he'd been doing it every day his entire life.

At some point between 82-84 Sandberg realized that the single-stage Merlin just wasn't going to give enough boost to where the Unlimiteds were going speed-wise. But it was a nice experiment.


I flew with Jim in our old Cajun Wing CAF B-23, he really knew how to get the most out of an airplane, and scare the SH-T, out of the Crew Chief :shock: .I miss Jim, & a bunch more pilot's like him we have lost over the years.
Robbie 8)
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